The screen on my Avant has a dent in the top rhs of the screen glass and chickenwire effect on either extreme side so its not like bno havent had problems before with their screens.

Thing is , the tv is still working after 7 years and still looks pin sharp .

None of my other tvs have ever been as reliable or had as good a picture for as long.

I'd seriously consider the bv10 46 as a new tv without hesitation , it looks lovely has 3 hdmi's , and as for the sound I'd just add my beloab 6ks to beef it up a bit

..i think adding beolab6 or 8 is not solving the sound "problem" because they are working only at "effekt modus".The main sound coming out of the center speaker.the problem is,that the added bl´s sounding brilliant and the main bv10 has alot of weaks in the High-Mids.I think an own sound menue for the center speaker would help to adjust the system

My BV10-46 is fine. No clouding or strange noises. One thing is that it looses ML connection to my BS5/BM5 sometimes so I just pull out the powerplug. Has happened 3 times sinces last summer so its no big deal. Guess its solved in a newer software version.

Startuptime is no problem, I´m used to it and can wait.

Picture is marvellous especially with BR movies from my Pioneer BR player in HD.

Sound is via 4*BL3. Thinking of the BL11 to add some more base.

Brgds Ingvar

Flappo wrote:

Maybe they should have stayed with plasma a bit longer so as to differentiate themselves and keep the quality up as LCD seems a very under developed technology.

I agree 100%, and I would guess that given the choice B&O would have used plasma as well, and not a new unproven technology.  This, after all, is what they traditionally do as a brand,  by only implementing a technology once it is stable and offers a definate benefit to the end user.

But then what do they get?  A forum (and shop) full of people complaining that "Samsung do LED", "Plasma is old" blah, blah.

Out of interest, of those above complaining about the LED issues (personally I have never seen then on the BV10 that I saw) how many would have bought the set if it looked exactly the same apart from being a bit deeper, with the better sound that would provide, and using an "old" plasma panel?

The fact that the forum is littered with other threads where people are complaining that a BV7-40 isn't LED backlight, just shows that the por guys in Struer can't do right for doing wrong.

rednik wrote:

Out of interest, of those above complaining about the LED issues (personally I have never seen then on the BV10 that I saw) how many would have bought the set if it looked exactly the same apart from being a bit deeper, with the better sound that would provide, and using an "old" plasma panel?

I fully agree with your remark. I actually liked the BV4-50 most, however with 10cm depth it was a bit to much on the wall and pricing was a bit to high for my taste. After much deliberation I bought the BV10-40 which I liked design-wise too and for the overall integration and accepted the price point😕.  

After some time I got used to the screen and noticed a bit of ghosting. Most notably in dark scenes within movies or when the movies ends (showing all the names of authors etc.). OR when the system shuts down. In the end I did not try the software update but went for the BV-46 MKii. I haven't played a lot with it yet, as the house is currently being refurnished, but at least in the 2 weeks I could look no ghosting and a splendid picture. 

BeoFab wrote:

My experience with my Beovision 10 so far has been very, very good. No problem at all thanks God!!

 

Now, I also have a Sony Bravia 40" with stainless steel frame (I wonder from where they got the inspiration) which is in "perfect" working condition and I am willing to sacrifice myself and trade it for a "defective" Beovision 10 anytime😐😁

 

 

Tell us a bit about your Sony. Why are you not satisfied with it? Seems like SOME people here think that only B&O TV's has problems. 🤔

I've seen many of the problems mentioned in this thread, on both SONY, Philips, LG and other LCD/LED flatscreens...
Maybe the technology just isn't good enough yet. 🤔

I stick to my old BeoVision3 CRT for a while yet. Best picture I've seen on any TV 😐 OK -it's not HD -it's not BIG...It's not FLAT 😕
But the overall picture quality is better than most flatscreens i've seen so far...😁

I agree with you Steffen, maybe the technology simply isn't good enough yet.

I've been looking around a lot since it would be nice with a larger picture than 32 inch, but I guess there is still nothing better than a BV3.

It's like comparing a really good vinyl LP with a low resolution MP3. Ok, you get rid of the distortion, but the sound is unnatural and dead in a way..

Even on some of the best ( and most expensive) HD TV's there is something "too digital" about the whole experience…

I always use to embrace new technology..maybe I'm getting old ;-)

/Peter

I had my BV10 updated to the newest software yesterday, and it did take away some of the clouding. 

Clearly less of it now, I mentioned the "cooling" set to the tech guy, he had never heard of such a thing.

Put it this way.... If you dont like the product... fair, but dont make a tread this big repeating your selfs, with S***.

If you can´t  live with that small amount of clouding, that i see on my BV 10-40 in a dark room. i can hardly see it, and non of those i asked about it, havent notices it before i pointet it out for them. ok the TV is not so quick at startup, but better with the new SW. About the channel shifting, i dont have any regards... much like all other digital tvs. and then agian... take a look at the picture on a Sony top of there class TV. pure digital/analog tuner..... maybe quicker... but not.... defenently not better.... ! 

If you think Samsung is thinner and better looking, then sell your B&O stuff, and by samsung ect....

Ok not low freqrenz and big sound in the BV-10 but still Good sound... Ad a pair og good front speakers maybe a pair of rearspeakers aswell, you´ll have GREAT integratet Sorround sound.... no need for a big ugly SorroundSound Reciever/amplifier.... 😕

Then try to take a slim Samsung 8mm TV....!!!!  My Iphone have better sound than that....  A great picture from Blueray/DVD, but try to see a digital/analog picture from your daily channel.... not so great. And what are you wathing most of, on your TV.... ?? DVD ???? NOT !! !

In my opinion, B&O still makes one of the best TV´s in the world, and a integration like no other....

I´m a teck/gadget geek myself, but still loves the simple control of B&O

Just some thoughts from another point of view.

Thanks for a great forum

Thank you Schmedegaard! Agree to 100%