ferrari wrote:

Agree.

My BeoVision 10 to 46 takes over 20 seconds to turn on and it takes about 5 seconds to change channels. All new televisions from other manufacturers turn and switches to the second. But it's probably because then you have time to hand and enjoy the stunning thin design (6 cm vs samsung 0.8 cm) :-)

And a few times each month, digital tuner does not find some programs because they have no control over their digital tuner.

Teletext is also very slow and seems like a product that is 10 years old.

B / O are also aware of the above issues and try to resolve it with the latest software update but it does not help

I made the test of the starting time of the Tv : 44.7 seconds to have a picture with DVB-HD ; 27.2 seconds with my set top box (french Numéricable) and 22 seconds for analog Tv.

This is the official B & O answer for my complaint : "(...) we must confirm that it can take up to 40-45 seconds to start up the DVB-HD module. The reason for this is that the module powers down completely when the TV is switched off. This is made in order to prevent too high power consumption. There are no plans for changing this. (...)".

I also know there's only one solution : buy from an other brand, but I like too much my B & O ! I can't imagine a second leaving with a black plastic Tv on a black plastic stand.

My sister has a brand new Sony 52" LED with contrast screen and aluminium stand (very Beoish) and it's full of clouds even  during day time (if you watch football you see five or six triangles on the grass...).

That's why I stay with my B & O clouds and try to forget about it.

Cheers,

Gregory

Hi Beogreg

I have also had the above explanation on the timely startup. However it bugs me that B&O are very well aware about the issue, and as they still ship tv´s with their DVB-HD module fittet, this startuptime is apparently ALSO acceptable at B&O. WHY on earth do they not make it possible to change the settings in the servicemenu. I mean fair enough that B&O will reduce powerconsumption and all that, but make it possible not to power down the DVB-HD module when powering down the tv, and then it is up to the individual consumer if they can live with the higher consumption financialy AND enviromentaly.

I my self know several potential B&O customers that are reluctant to buy a B&O tv, ONLY because of this unreasonable startuptime.

So B&O, if not making it standard out of the box, then at least give us the possibility to change it ourself...

/Ehlerz

Hopefully they'll get their act together in the next year or so.

The Intel thing looks promising.

I have mine from October 2010, I have not encountered any kind of these technical issues. I am satisfied with the BV10 46, even if I think it is way too looong to warm up (more than 25 seconds ) and the sound is not so good as my older Avant.

Cheers,

BeoGreg wrote:

ferrari wrote:

Agree.

My BeoVision 10 to 46 takes over 20 seconds to turn on and it takes about 5 seconds to change channels. All new televisions from other manufacturers turn and switches to the second. But it's probably because then you have time to hand and enjoy the stunning thin design (6 cm vs samsung 0.8 cm) :-)

And a few times each month, digital tuner does not find some programs because they have no control over their digital tuner.

Teletext is also very slow and seems like a product that is 10 years old.

B / O are also aware of the above issues and try to resolve it with the latest software update but it does not help

 

I made the test of the starting time of the Tv : 44.7 seconds to have a picture with DVB-HD ; 27.2 seconds with my set top box (french Numéricable) and 22 seconds for analog Tv.

This is the official B & O answer for my complaint : "(...) we must confirm that it can take up to 40-45 seconds to start up the DVB-HD module. The reason for this is that the module powers down completely when the TV is switched off. This is made in order to prevent too high power consumption. There are no plans for changing this. (...)".

I also know there's only one solution : buy from an other brand, but I like too much my B & O ! I can't imagine a second leaving with a black plastic Tv on a black plastic stand.

My sister has a brand new Sony 52" LED with contrast screen and aluminium stand (very Beoish) and it's full of clouds even  during day time (if you watch football you see five or six triangles on the grass...).

That's why I stay with my B & O clouds and try to forget about it.

Cheers,

Gregory

 

Hello,

I have also made a test of the starting time of the HD module with my BV 10-40: 33 seconds until the electronic curtain opens.

If I make a record with my HDR2, the HD module is working and the LED is green. Then it takes only 12 seconds! So it would help if you could remain the HD module on in the settings.

The time of changing channel is also very long, about 4 seconds. If you use a connected camcorder via scart as monitor, you can see that the channel changes at once. So it is obvious that this is not an issue of the HD module but of the BV 10.

BTW: Last week my BV 10 shows the county choice after switching on, because the HD module had made an automatic reset. I had to store all my channels (97 !) again, I was not very amused!

/Räuber

My experience with my Beovision 10 so far has been very, very good. No problem at all thanks God!!

Now, I also have a Sony Bravia 40" with stainless steel frame (I wonder from where they got the inspiration) which is in "perfect" working condition and I am willing to sacrifice myself and trade it for a "defective" Beovision 10 anytime😐😁

hi there,

i´m also an owner of an 10/46...the only thing,and thats disapointing,is the sound of the center speaker.for sure you cannot expect a very rich sound of these system.but i think,if the sound menue is more differentiated perhaps with an equalizer or  "better" parameter,it would sounds much better.i think that could be solved in an update.i dont think thats a speaker or chassis problem.

greetings siggi

it's Samsung's fault for making poor quality displays in the first place , not bno's.

They can only work with what they're given.

Maybe they should have stayed with plasma a bit longer so as to differentiate themselves and keep the quality up as LCD seems a very under developed technology.

Flappo wrote:

They can only work with what they're given.

Well, B&O arent given anything, they have chosen to get their defective panels from Samsung. So it is most certainly B&O´s fault if they despite of the mentioned issues continue to work with Samsung, as they are alowed  to look for another supplier without faulty panels... 

/Ehlerz

I'm ok with my 10-40. Only miss timer funtion from Avant.

My 10-40 just does it for me. Enjoy every time I come home and turn it on. Start up time is long but worth the wait.