About LED backlight with local dimming system; it seems that there are problem with the technology as well since images with grey shades tends to turn black and images with colour section with weak light tends to fade to grey. Has been reported on numerous LED tv and reported in many other forums.

kimhav wrote:

About LED backlight with local dimming system; it seems that there are problem with the technology as well since images with grey shades tends to turn black and images with colour section with weak light tends to fade to grey. Has been reported on numerous LED tv and reported in many other forums.

True,but likely to be less aggravating in PQ terms than an edge lit system.

LCD/LED is a still maturing technology,which is why I am surprised that B & O should major on it to the detriment of Plasma TVs.

I would have thought that premium integrated TVs based on a technology that is more mature,and provides superior PQ,are more likely to attract new buyers to the brand.

I agree with Oli, I've had the BV10-46 for 9 months and not a single problem. The Ashes cricket on sky HD was super quality especially since we won ! I've never had any clouding issues with any source including streamed photos which leave large amounts of black screen when viewing portrait style photos.

Best Wishes

Doctor wrote:

cricket could be another one!

now that is a sensitive topic ... heads are sure to roll

To put the scale of the floods into perspective, here are the Wikipedia stats for the country of Mexico:

for the state of Queensland:

You should not be scared of having your BV10 retrofitted with the improved cooling plates.

It was an easy exercise. Agree that B&O should have figured this out before shipping the first units.

Regarding clouding, its not possible to detect during e.g a "normal" movie.

I would say it does not at all disturb the picture. I do see a few spots when the screen is really dark, but who need a perfect screen just to look at a dark surface... 😕

I will make a very long story short : after eleven interventions in my house during five months (tv change, "cooling kit" installed, numerous software upgrades) I still have horrible clouds on dark scenes on BV10-40.

I also think that with the last software (ie. 153) the picture is now too dark and if you change brightness you get a poor picture.

I'm really fed up with all the time I spend and try not to think about it now (my wife or kids are not bothered with clouds), but I haven't said my last word !

Appart from the clouds (on two BV10-40) and the dark picture, I had a "lost" DVB-HD modul and analog modul (no Tv on a Tv set appart from my set top box !), cracking noises (still there sometimes even with "cooling kit"), very weak remote control (you need to be in front of the TV with Beo 5, Beo4 or Beo4 navigation), sound issues (different levels between different channels - first time in my life with same set up on MX or Avant), Puc issues (Puc 1 stopped working)...

What I got from B & O is a one more year warranty.

I'm not happy at all with the Tv and B & O lack of reactions (several letters at Beocare).

BTW, when all Tv sources stopped on my BV10, my dealer (very professionnal) immediatly installed a BV7-32 and guess what, clouding issue on white pictures : several dark spots on the center of the Tv. I was also annoyed by the noise of the spinning DVD on BV7.

No Tv seems perfect any price.

Cheers,

Gregory

Hi

Sorry to hear about your problems, but just to let you know. All the never tv´s in B&Os range have theese issues.

I had/have the issue with a brand new 7-40 MK V, had my panel changed twice until B&O said that this was within acceptable bleeding at B&O.

Also the 7-55 has problems, and 10-40 and..and...and...!!!

And remember that this bleeding was on an LCD panel, not even LED. So to sum up, substantial bleeding on their screens are acceptable at B&O...

Maybe a few people does not have any issues, but otherwise i am almost certain that everyone sees the bleeding in a pitch dark room. The reason that everyone have not noticed it yet is because they always watch their tv´s in a brighter room.

So, you should return your tv, as this will IMO NEVER be fixed, at least not on present tv´s.. 

/Ehlerz

I can not live with so many clouds in dark scenes on my BeoVision 10 to 46 and it's not ok to B & O deliver such a poor product.

And do not think the above comments are correct - it's actually possible to create a television without clouds - it's just choosing better panel technology - plasma or full led backlight !

I agree, and have therefore stopped buying their products after 4 years of loyalty to the brand.

Only thing to do is to stop buying their faulty products...

Most of their "new" products have not been functioning correctly, DVB-HD did not work at all when launched, BS5 did not work, DVD2 did not work, clouding on all tv´s. After B&O went digital, everything has been a disaster..

Only thing I will still buy, is their high-end speakers... Everything else is out of the question..

/Ehlerz

Agree.

My BeoVision 10 to 46 takes over 20 seconds to turn on and it takes about 5 seconds to change channels. All new televisions from other manufacturers turn and switches to the second. But it's probably because then you have time to hand and enjoy the stunning thin design (6 cm vs samsung 0.8 cm) :-)

And a few times each month, digital tuner does not find some programs because they have no control over their digital tuner.

Teletext is also very slow and seems like a product that is 10 years old.

B / O are also aware of the above issues and try to resolve it with the latest software update but it does not help