Reading these posts, I'm so glad I didn't swap out my much maligned problematic BV7-40 for a equally problematic BV10-46. For months my intention was to swap and "upgrade" from my BV7-40 MKIV to the new BV10-46. Someone in the industry warned me that it was more of a downgrade, which led to some doubts.

I think this is my first post on Beoworld for months! Become a little bored of B&O lately.

What about the Cheapest t.v ....The beovision 8 no problems at all?

I don't think any 'nastiness' was intended in this thread at all. Just an ironic sense of humour. As Ed says, it is fifficult to take too much notice of a little clouding on a screen when 10 foot of water is raging through one's living room. In other words, there are worse things that happen: cricket could be another one!

On the screen issues, I am sure B&O are taking these complaints seriously though clearly the actual screens are outsourced, as they have to be. Very happy with my BV5 - good sound and perfectly acceptable picture.

Apple allowes (if I mentioned right) up to 9 spots on a display. Nobody here will be willing to pay the price for a "non spot display". Nothing to talk about at all with your delaer.

Doctor wrote:

Very happy with my BV5 - good sound and perfectly acceptable picture.

I agree with this.

I'm sure i read somewhere Lee (Lifestyle Lee), saying that the BV-5 was one of the (if not THE), most reliable, trouble-free B&O product he has come across....

Not intentionally meaning to misquote him, but i'm sure he commented words to this effect.......apologies if I'm incorrect.

I'm reading various threads regarding problems with the latest products, BV-10, BV-8, Beosound 5, Beosound 8 etc. and I'm kind of happy I paid a fraction of those prices for my 2003 BV-5, and my positively ancient Beosystem 7000/6500 and even older Penta II's! - and i've never had a problem with any of my gear🙂

Maybe i've just been fortunate thus far....or maybe the 1990's and early 2000's stuff was just better built....???

I fancy a Beovision 9 eventually (when i can afford one!) to replace/upgrade my BV-5......but cant comment on the BV-9's reliability/possible issues as I've not read much about them - either positive or negative.

Even the BV-9 is now discontinued.....from the current range there really is nothing I actually want to buy...even if money was no object at all..

B/O have changed my panel on my brand new BeoVision 10 - 46 and it does not help.

There is clearly clouds and bleeding backlight on my screen yet.

It is simply not good enough on a screen that costs 8,500 euros and not ok to an entirely new television must be separated by to try to correct this error.

I have 3 Panasonic plasma video display units in the house and there are blacks niveau quite super and no evidence of clouding what so ever.

B/O has always turned on that they will not introduce technologies they can not trust or know - and what do they do so - does not require much engineering degree to run tests on the BeoVision 10 and see this error.

Samsung also makes plasma panel which is less than 3 cm thick and has low power consumption. Come into the match B & O chose the right panels without fail to beovision 10 - big mistake !!!.

I go all the way with my television and are considering going to the Danish consumer media to tell the story.

So has anyone had success with the cooling kit as a means of reducing clouding?

Get it fully replaced by your dealer !

I have mine since 5 monthes, and absolutely not a single problem with picture in darkness, cooling, clicking noises or whatever. I am a long time B&O customer, and if I agree with you about some perfectible points regarding Q/A since a few years, I must admit that customer services are still at the top, and they don't hesitate to replace the whole BV/BS/... in case of problem, after trying the basics like SW update or panel replacement without success. My MX8000 is far much noisy than the BV10-46.

And don't forget that the quality of the picture, and particulary the clouding problem could be a problem with the signal as well, check that everything is fine with signal, cables, DVB module (SW update) before saying that your panel or the whole product is crap.

It is my understanding that clouding,and non uniform backlighting,are potential problems with an edge lit LED panel.

Personally,if I was going for a non Plasma TV,I would only consider a full LED backlight,with local dimming,system.

I think it is short sighted of B & O not to have integrated Plasma TVs in their portfolio.