Beousound 5 / 5 Encore - can it play 24bit/192kHz

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Hi all,

Just out of interest, does anyone know if the Beosound 5/5 Encore is able to play 24bit/192kHz FLAC files (eg files from Linn Records)

 

Cheers

 

BillC

Hi,

From personal exeprience and beocare answer, here is the answer.

The Encore read files with a maximum of 16 bits 44 kHz. If you have a 48kHz, it will be downgraded, but more than 16 bits the MOTS process will stop (crash) and will be unable to finish the track analysis. I spend hours to detect the faulty tracks in my library.

The track will of course not be readable.

I think the beomaster 5 can read 24 bits.

Eric

Hmm. Ok, so you just convinced me NOT to buy an Encore... Sorry B&O, my money was ready, just waiting for the BeoNet>ML adapter, but :

1. No gapless playback (in a "audiophile" product)

2. No support of HD files (in a "audiophile" product)

Just makes me think that B&O is NOT going the right way. What's next? A player that only supports MP3 and not lossless? I was seduced by the Encore, it's modern thinking, the fact that it can use a NAS and not a stupid old overpriced PC ala BM5, the MOTS function. But finally, it just seem to be a piece of cr*p.

erandlux - thanks for your prompt answer.

I was about to get a white Beosound 5 Encore as a nice Christmas gift to myself until this. Honestly, I love the fact that Beosound 5 Encore has a beautiful physical front end and works with modern non B&O storage solutions (NAS etc). 

I'm afraid I'm in the same boat with mbee - ie no Beosound 5 Encore purchase.

My deal breakers are:

1. lack of support for HD file;

2. ambiguity about two way remote ( via Beo 6 or iPad app) - yes its odd but a 2 way remote would be very useful

It looks like I'm back into research mode. Linn players are well crafted and give wonderful sound, its a pity they don't come with a beautiful physical front end like the Beosound 5/5 Encore. I wish B&O and Linn would have collaborated together for a digital music player.

I guess its too much to ask for a firmware upgrade that would allow the Beosound 5 Encore to play 24bit/192kHz files??? Or maybe thats reserved for the much more expensive Beosound 5...

 

 

 

 

my BS5/BM5 cannot play 192/24bit files. dead silence. can any of you play these?

BS5 definitely plays 192kHz 24bit FLAC

BS5E definitely does play 96kHz 24bit FLAC (no sound with 192kHz)

for sure the MOTS calculation takes longer. Often if a 24bit file is choosen as start for MOTS, it keeps on playing 24bits files

To be really honnest with you guys, i really hesitated between the LINN majik DS and the beosound 5 encore, since price is equivalent.

I went to my Linn Dealer to listen, have a look at the Ipad interface (called kinsky)' and was really confused because it was damned good.

The only point, is that I wanted to keep my BL4000' and was not able to test them via the line connection of the Linn majik DS.

After weeks of nigtmare, forums, web browsing, I went back to my BO dealer and bought the Encore. I was aware of this limitation, for me and my BL4000' a FLAC file of 16 bit is sufficient since it is the CD equivalent. I do not have the audio installation to appreciate a studio master record.

But what a disapoitment when i tried to use it, nothing was functionning, album where displayed more than once, album cover where not dispayed, MOTS was not running, during weeks,....

I solved most of the problems (some with the help of the forum), by hacking my NAS drive to install the new twonky 6 version, retaging files, replacing album cover, a lot hours spend to have it up and running.

Beleive me guys, I really hesited to give it back to the shop.

Time passed, and now all this is just bad "souvenirs", i am actually really happy with it, sounds great, look great, and in the next future, will be connectable with the new coming products, since BO really wants to go for digital music as my dealer told me.

If you still hesitate to buy the Encore, consider those points :

Do you want to browse your misic with an ipad from your chair ? Dont' buy it, it is not possible to have the Encore act as a music renderer

Do you want to use real HD tracks, or audio master ? Don't buy it, go for a Linn product.

Do you want a good working product that can be connected to your old BO ? Buy it, i have it connected to my BM7000.

Conclusion :

The Encore is a great product, his potential is just not used yet, but it will come.

The key if you decide to buy it is the tagging of your file, bad tagging gives you more than for other products, and because of this wheel system navigation, a really bad experience, that was my case at the beginning, but it is not anymore.

Hope this will help you all to take the right decision....

here is the french answer of beocare to my problem of the Encore about the file limitation :

La seule restriction est la résolution et fréquence d'échantillonage qui doit être maximum de 16 bits / 44 KHz. Si le fichier a une fréquence de 48 KHz il est lu mais la fréquence est automatiquement abaissée à 44 KHz. Au dessus il peut ne pas être lu et également poser des problèmes pour l'analyse MOTS.

It confirm what I just said before, only 16 bits, but maybee they are wrong. the fact is that after removing the only album I had in 24 bits, everything worked fine.

Thank you for detailing your carefully considered journey 

erandlux wrote:
Do you want a good working product that can be connected to your old BO ? Buy it, i have it connected to my BM7000.

how did you achieve this ?

  • how are they wired together
  • how are they controlled 

The Encore is linked to the BM7000 via his powerlink socket to the tape 1 entry of the BM.

I used for this a specific powerlink cable (don't ask me more, my dealer built the cable....)

The controlling issue is a bit more tricky. I use a beo4.

I have to first power on the Encore via the link-CD function, and then turn un the BM 7000 via the A.mem button.

I would have excpected that both system, turns on at the same time, if you have any ideas, they are welcome.

For sound control, same issue, if i am on the link-cd, i can control volume of the Encore, and if I am on the A.mem, i can control the volume of the BM7000.

Not really practical or within BO spirit I agree, but seems to be the only solution to share the beolabs between my CD6500, the Encore, and the BM7000 that also control the television (non BO)

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