StUrrock wrote:

Tonker wrote:

 

Mercedes a few years back ran an excellent set of commercials trying to appeal the different demographics to flog the A and B class cars. Most of the adverts used mums.

 

 

Great point, how many ladies post on this forum?

 

I don't think many, but look at it this way:

How many men with female partners have the final buying decision?

(let's be honest here, I don't!)

rednik wrote:

Millemissen wrote:

It is the fact that videosources and audiosources are integrated (even older stuff with newer) , that you need only one remote, that you can control 3rd party devices, that you don't have to look at displays telling you things you don't need to know, that you don't have to push buttons and turn things on and off, when you switch from listening to a CD to watching tv....

 

All good selling points and justification for a higher price 10 years ago.

In 2013 there are a thousand ways you can do the same with any supplier for less than the price of B&O so the products have to really shine to justify the extra cost

Does that mean we should 'close down' the Beoworld forum and transform it into a pure B&O vintage forum?

MM

Millemissen,

I think you are being a bit dramatic, ofcourse we shouldn't close down Beoworld! 😁

I think you had a very good point with selecting the sources. That's something I love too. Just one button to shut off my BL5's and BS9000, and on comes my BV9. Superb.

But to be honest, masterlink it great (in my case when these two sources are in the same room, and wiring can be done easily), but I can only imagine, and then dread if I wanted video masterlinked to my upstairs... Not very intuitive, and not very 2013. The masterlink cable alone would cost more than a couple of Apple TV's that would basically be all that's needed, since I have the Macbooks/Mac Mini's already.

What I'd really like to see is something like the BS5 Encore from B&O that could also distribute video and sound wirelessly just like an apple TV does, and a great little software on you computer to do it from.

As an example, my wife is now watching (well then me too 😁 ) Sex and the City all over again, I don't have a DVD/BR player connected, as I figured I'd use it so seldom. Instead I'm mirroring my computer screen (Macbook Pro) onto my BV9 with the Apple TV. Works like a charm, and it's very easy. 

As an Apple user, I get spoilt by all these wonderful and easy to use solutions that is built in to the software from the beginning. 

Wiring is so passé.

And as a side note, B&O isn't telling about the stuff you just told us, in your good post above, about how it "just works". They might say it just works, but not explaining more.

Ah, well, I think we shouldn't tell this to B&O for free, we should be on their payroll! 😎

I feel very sorry to hear that a B&O salesman can't explain these things - every B&O salesman should do this if he wants people to keep buying B&O stuff.

I admit that I was a bit 'dramatic' - maybe I just should have asked: give me some examples ("In 2013 there are a thousand ways you can do the same with any supplier for less than the price of B&O").

You already mentioned some.

I am an Apple-user as well - actually I find that the combination Bang & Olufsen/Apple is the best way to go at the moment. But the backbone of my setup is Bang & Olufsen. N.B. I have a BluRay player as well!

---- if you like, see more about my setup in the post today 10:51 

http://archivedforum2.beoworld.org/forums/p/7216/64522.aspx#64522

I want to use my CD's/LP's as sources in my setup further on ----

Looking forward to 'Maverick' and to use my AppleTV's as a genuine second screen for the Mac.

Might bring some new interesting possibilities.

Greetings Millemissen

The retail experience has changed and also how we review and buy products, I buy 90% of everything on line including white goods and all my B&O equipment and use the Internet to suck knowledge before purchase. Before I ventured into the B&O world my HiFi purchases were always via What HiFi yearly recomendations and even though I tried I struggled to find back to back reviews of Bang & Olufsen in any magazines.

I work in the car industry and our showrooms are suffering the same issues of lack of footfall and traditionally showing off the product in the same boring way, we need to look at other trend setting retailers and take note and make a visit to a B&O boutique or website an adventure and a wondrous experience that we would wish to revisit and tell our friends.

Product is important and why can't Bang & Olufsen be a bit more risky, vinyl purchase is on the increase so bring out a new turntable and play on the companies strengths of making music playing an event.

Could they do smaller runs of products using guest designers ?

Mark wrote:

Could they do smaller runs of products using guest designers ?

I've always argued that B&O should do limited edition products or limited runs. All luxury brands do this. Watch, car, handbag manufacturers. The problem with most B&O kit is that it's readily available, to everyone, apart from silly special edition products, such as the V1 in chocolate brown. Ironically, any SE product B&O does produce tends not to get promoted in a store as the dealer doesn't agree with the release.

Personally, I'd buy a wider fret selection, even if this meant spending more money. Why not offer important customers a custom fret based on a number of pantone colours? There's a Dutch company that can do this already, so why not B&O?

I want my BV10-32 to have the same green fret that the BS8 was given. Consistency in the same room. I'd pay more for this green fret, even if it was a special custom option! Custom and special colours are good....as long as they are promoted as being available.

Mark wrote:

Product is important and why can't Bang & Olufsen be a bit more risky, vinyl purchase is on the increase so bring out a new turntable and play on the companies strengths of making music playing an event. 

I fully agree - B&O has a long and proven track record with turntables. Vinyl records generate a lot of hype (and sales) these days, so launching a new turntable in the spirit of the Beogram 4000 or 8000 would make full sense. Not a lot B&O audio systems to connect it to though...

VANTAGE wrote:

Mark wrote:

Product is important and why can't Bang & Olufsen be a bit more risky, vinyl purchase is on the increase so bring out a new turntable and play on the companies strengths of making music playing an event. 

I fully agree - B&O has a long and proven track record with turntables. Vinyl records generate a lot of hype (and sales) these days, so launching a new turntable in the spirit of the Beogram 4000 or 8000 would make full sense. Not a lot B&O audio systems to connect it to though...

The irony is, a couple of young guys in our office would buy a B&O turntable. One has asked me if I can find him one of the older B&O turntables.

The problem for B&O is they are damned if they do, damned if they don't. If they are not seen to adopt modern standards (Spotify etc), people jump on them saying they are technologically behind everyone else. Let's be fair here, how many people on this board have said they want to migrate to the BeoSystem 4 from the BeoSystem 3....simply because of the (badly implemented) extra media functionality from the BV11 chassis? We don't need them. We don't need the gimmicky sound functions (night listening, game, movie, sport etc), but we think our lives will improve if we do. Humans have a desire for the latest technology - see the comment above about waiting for Mavericks.

i find the stores are very clinical looking and never welcoming as the put large cardboard banners at the front of the shop well my local 

i also noted that the local HIFI  retailer in the same town is marketing all B&O headphones and lower entry products , which must be a big problem for the main store which is now only really in the market for custom install which again is overloaded and requires a tie in with Architects in the UK

"....simply because of the (badly implemented) extra media functionality from the BV11 chassis? We don't need them. We don't need the gimmicky sound functions (night listening, game, movie, sport etc), but we thinkour lives will improve if we do. Humans have a desire for the latest technology - see the comment above about waiting for Mavericks."

Some do - Moxxey don't.

MM