Millemissen wrote:

 

If the Core (aka BeoSound Core) is 'just' the source center, it could be utilized in other constallations as well - replacing an Essence or even as the sound system for a set of BL5's (in BEO4 mode) via the SPDIF-out....?

 

Correct. A BeoSound Shape setup would have one single BeoSound Core. And that would connect (via optical & USB) to the first amplifier. And then the amplifiers daisy chain with each other, via a new digital technology (RJ45 cabling).

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Chris wrote:

Severed_Hand_of_Skywalker wrote:

HATE the price. It's a joke. You're better off buying an A9 and wall mounting it as it will sound much better and cost less.

A lot of money for a mono speaker system. And the looks have to fit in your house.

Not a very new idea, already some brands tried this configuration for a cooking plate.

 

"Not a very new idea" you say... No - the Bees have been using it for millions of years, if you are talking about the shape (not the Shape)...

But it IS a new idea, using it the way B&O does here. And I don't think the Bees will sue them... 👍  

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I had a chance to listen to the system here in Milan yesterday. Contrary to the review, I was impressed with the bass capabilities of the system (you could really feel the bass drum in a classical piece) and had to ask if there was a subwoofer hidden around somewhere (there wasn't). The sound didn't seem "mono" to me at all – listening to a London Grammar song, the singer seemed to hover somewhere in the centre of the wall whereas the band were supporting her more from the sides. It wasn't stereo in a traditional sense (there are algorithms at work that upmix the signal to however many speaker tiles there are) – the "no sweet spot" effect very much applied: the sound didn't change as I moved around the room and side to side, with different elements of the music still appearing in the same places on the wall. This was a system with 12 speaker tiles.

I think BeoSound Shape will have a bright future ahead of it.

Severed_Hand_of_Skywalker wrote:

Millemissen wrote:

Severed_Hand_of_Skywalker wrote:

You're better off buying an A9 and wall mounting it as it will sound much better and cost less.

How can you know - did you already listen to it?

And if yes, in which configuration?

MM

Based on everyones hands on with it so far. The base model has no punch and little base to it. Sure you can DOUBLE the configuration but at that point you can also get 2-3 A9's and the A9's will still sound better.

I find these money-for-money comparisons kinda useless. You can also get 4 of these for the price of one A9 and it will pack way more punch but who gives a heck. The A9 isn't a direct alternative to Shape so why bother pointing out watt-for-watt or money-for-money differences.

tph wrote:

I had a chance to listen to the system here in Milan yesterday. Contrary to the review, I was impressed with the bass capabilities of the system (you could really feel the bass drum in a classical piece) and had to ask if there was a subwoofer hidden around somewhere (there wasn't). The sound didn't seem "mono" to me at all – listening to a London Grammar song, the singer seemed to hover somewhere in the centre of the wall whereas the band were supporting her more from the sides. It wasn't stereo in a traditional sense (there are algorithms at work that upmix the signal to however many speaker tiles there are) – the "no sweet spot" effect very much applied: the sound didn't change as I moved around the room and side to side, with different elements of the music still appearing in the same places on the wall. This was a system with 12 speaker tiles.

I think BeoSound Shape will have a bright future ahead of it.

-- Tuomas // BeoPlay H3, Beolit 12

KMA wrote:

@tph: Great to hear about your experience of the Shape, thanks for sharing!

+1 🤒

We need more of those first hand experiences!

According to what Marie Kristine told (in one of the videos) it will be in 'some of our stores' in June - the rest will have to wait untill August.

So we will have to be patient, if we want to judge by ourselves.

I am positive - why should B&O make something that sounds bad :-)

MM

Hiort wrote:

tph wrote:

 

I had a chance to listen to the system here in Milan yesterday. Contrary to the review, I was impressed with the bass capabilities of the system (you could really feel the bass drum in a classical piece) and had to ask if there was a subwoofer hidden around somewhere (there wasn't). The sound didn't seem "mono" to me at all – listening to a London Grammar song, the singer seemed to hover somewhere in the centre of the wall whereas the band were supporting her more from the sides. It wasn't stereo in a traditional sense (there are algorithms at work that upmix the signal to however many speaker tiles there are) – the "no sweet spot" effect very much applied: the sound didn't change as I moved around the room and side to side, with different elements of the music still appearing in the same places on the wall. This was a system with 12 speaker tiles.

 

I think BeoSound Shape will have a bright future ahead of it.

 

-- Tuomas // BeoPlay H3, Beolit 12

 

 

Thanks for sharing!

 

Wonder what that setup would cost 🙂

 

12 speakers, 3 amps, one core...

 

 

Hiort wrote:

Wonder what that setup would cost 🙂

12 speakers, 3 amps, one core...

I suppose - 3 x 4000 € depending on how many damping tiles etc included minus the 2 Cores not needed.

Without any comparing - that is roundabout equivalent to what people have to pay for a set of the BL20 plus an Essence, if I am not mistaken.

MM

tph wrote:

I had a chance to listen to the system here in Milan yesterday. Contrary to the review, I was impressed with the bass capabilities of the system (you could really feel the bass drum in a classical piece) and had to ask if there was a subwoofer hidden around somewhere (there wasn't). The sound didn't seem "mono" to me at all – listening to a London Grammar song, the singer seemed to hover somewhere in the centre of the wall whereas the band were supporting her more from the sides. It wasn't stereo in a traditional sense (there are algorithms at work that upmix the signal to however many speaker tiles there are) – the "no sweet spot" effect very much applied: the sound didn't change as I moved around the room and side to side, with different elements of the music still appearing in the same places on the wall. This was a system with 12 speaker tiles.

I think BeoSound Shape will have a bright future ahead of it.

I would assume it to be based upon Mid/Side encoding - a 2 channel signal can be represented by either Left+right channels or mid+side channels. The mid channel could be sent to all central speakers and the side channel to either side. Its probably more sophisticated than that but have a similar foundation.