The same for the Essence and the Ml/NL converter

NL doesn't seem to support the older displays info.

Carolpa wrote:

The same for the Essence and the Ml/NL converter

NL doesn't seem to support the older displays info.

What a shame, it should be "easy" to implement it correct, since the volume is already correct. It seems they have implemented it to some point, but just not finished it.

But, I would expect the display to work correct, since the Penta speakers are in the list of speakers on the Moment.

Oh well, I will just keep them in the "VIDEO" position.

/Jacob

IIRC then A.TP2 was replaced by N.MUSIC as systems were modernised - keeping the IR and datalink codes unchanged. 

Hence it would seem that the Moment is sending out the correct N.MUSIC signal, it is just that the Pentas are giving the original data interpretation. 

(EDIT: Sorry, IIRC = If I Recall Correctly!)

Millemissen wrote:

Weebyx wrote:

Don't know if it is me that expect too much from the newer products?

/Jacob

I'd say, yes it is!

These displays and the technology behind them were in speaker that - depending on which - are 20 years or more old.

.....

 

I have - years ago - accepted that it was good then, but of no use anymore - apart from that all my 'display-speakers' are long gone......I upgraded ;-)

MM

To some degree I understand and agree with you, but when "Beolab Penta" is an option that can be selected in the speaker menu of the Moment, then I would think that they had thought about also implementing the display as good as they can.

When listening to TuneIn, the display can show "RADIO", Line-In could show "AUX", Deezer could show "CD", and at least the display could shut down when the Moment goes to std.by :) And not go into "Load Tape" mode.

I know they cannot show the sources of "today" but it could still be better than now. The information is still a part of the Powerlink Protocol.

This is not some "100 dollar" sound system, and I expect the best from Bang & Olufsen, this is why I still buy it :) And "wasting resources" on the old "display speakers using powerlink" is not that big a deal. It almost works as it is, just needs a bit of tweaking. 

My Penta speakers still sound fantastic, and I don't have issues with the wireless issues with the newer speakers using BeoSound Moment, and I will not spend that kind of money on speakers "of today" that has problems with the sound system "of today" :)

/Jacob 

 

You don't need to justify or explain, why you use the Penta's - they are exellent speakers.

I guess there are tons of 'not a big deal'-things, that B&O could do or could have done.

They choose not to!

The Penta's beeing in the list of the newer tv's/Moment/Essence however, has nothing to do with 'display'.

It is simply a way to tell the audio engine, that speakers with a certain capability are connected, in order to get the best sound from the tv/the Moment/the Essence. In many receivers/prepros you can choose between 'small or big speakers' - the audio engine in a B&O device is a bit more sophisticated.

Enjoy your Penta's....with or without display ;-)

MM

First of all, will focus on the topic - the Penta Display.

As these speakers are available at some ridiculous low prices today in 2018, I see several in my network who buy them and restore them to new beauty. And with todays components it is possible to make them even better sounding. I have just undergone a restoration of a set I bought for 300€ they are fantastic.

The display on my newly restored sets, are also showing wrong sources. The text shown on the displays reside on the display board inside the speaker, they are stored in a PROM (Programmable Read Only Memory) As the unit was designed in the late 1980's early 1990's that PROM could have a complimentary EPROM - erasable. I intend to look into that and see if some replacement PROM's are an option. Equipment to read the PROM and write a new one should be available. Most likely they are INTEL PROM's based on B&O's long legacy with Intel.

SECOND, During my search for a solution I have heard about a guy in the UK who designed a fully functioning TWO LINE DISPLAY - that didn't use the pre-stored logical PROM values, but actually showed the DATALINK BROADCAST from the system - and that meant his display would also show for example the title of the music playing etc. if the system was a Beomaster 6500/7000 and Beocenter 9500 which were to my knowledge the last systems with a fully functioning B&O Datalink. Perhaps first Ouverture also had it.

I would VERY MUCH LIKE if someone who knows about this guy, would drop a line here.

P.S. I apologize in advance if my information above is factually incorrect, as much is hear/say on these forums. I happily stand corrected if that's the case.