I've got an Ouverture and a BL3500 masterlinked to the BV10 already so I would have to get a junction box and fiddle around with adding the convertor to the mix. My Moment currently routes through the Core and through the Aux input on the Ouverture. 

Fansastic wrote:

No the Moment does not integrate with Eclipse and Harmony anymore.

That is really disappointing. Especially considering that the Beosound Moment still was sold when the Beovision Eclipse was introduced end of 2017. One reason less to purchase an expense Beovision.

Are there any reasons left to purchase a Beovision today?

It’s the simplest and only way to get an integrated center channel into a surround sound setup?

Oh, and I think the Harmony is a very beautiful, compelling way to hide an ugly big, black screen when not in use. At 65”, 77” or 88”, the big, black mirror hanging in a living room that is otherwise nicely decorated is pretty ugly and a designer’s nightmare. Harmony is a great, albeit expensive solution. 

This and the integration across a surround system are the reasons I see. The problem is that they’re just ridiculously priced, Beovisions. Even if you subtract out the cost for an AV surround receiver, a media cabinet and standalone subwoofer, the cost of a B&O TV-based surround system STILL is hard to justify, IMHO. Especially the case when the LG panel is a commodity, so you’re just paying for a pretty Sound Center, essentially.

That said, I want a Harmony 65” if my surround system is going to be in my main living room. If I had a dedicated room for my TV and surround system, I would care less what the TV looks like when not in use and I wouldn’t buy B&O. There are too many other much more cost effective speaker manufacturers out there.

My two cents... as a big B&O fan. I just think the market for $15k+ televisions was small to begin with and is shrinking.

Audio wrote:

Fansastic wrote:

No the Moment does not integrate with Eclipse and Harmony anymore.

That is really disappointing.

My two cents to this topic.
Technically it is understandable, that B&O does not support the integration of a Beosound Moment. Because TuneIn, Deezer, Netlink NL, Airplay, etc. are already integrated in todays Beovisions, theoretically there is no need for an additional Audio Master.
But from the user experience it is a horror. The Beosound Moment at least tried to manage different audio sources (local mp3 files and Deezer) with a common user interface (MoodWheel, search function, genres selection / search) addressing different user needs.
Instead Bang&Olufsen offers a useless B&O app regarding the manage / selection of music content, today. After 3 years of development it still does not offer any useful integration of local mp3 files and a limited Deezer access. Not talking about a integrating of additional streaming provider like Apple Music, Tidal, etc.
So from the technical viewpoint B&O made the correct decision. From the usability / software development view point a low cost Chinese manufacturer could not do it worse.
I do not understand why B&O is not able to purchase some Sonos loudspeaker and test the Sonos App to get at some ideas how an integration could work ...

HH1971 wrote:

My two cents to this topic. Technically it is understandable, that B&O does not support the integration of a Beosound Moment. Because TuneIn, Deezer, Netlink NL, Airplay, etc. are already integrated in todays Beovisions, theoretically there is no need for an additional Audio Master. But from the user experience it is a horror. The Beosound Moment at least tried to manage different audio sources (local mp3 files and Deezer) with a common user interface (MoodWheel, search function, genres selection / search) addressing different user needs. Instead Bang&Olufsen offers a useless B&O app regarding the manage / selection of music content, today. After 3 years of development it still does not offer any useful integration of local mp3 files and a limited Deezer access. Not talking about a integrating of additional streaming provider like Apple Music, Tidal, etc. So from the technical viewpoint B&O made the correct decision. From the usability / software development view point a low cost Chinese manufacturer could not do it worse. I do not understand why B&O is not able to purchase some Sonos loudspeaker and test the Sonos App to get at some ideas how an integration could work ...