Beosound Level: Differences Google vs non-Google?

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Hi,

I recently bought a Besound Level, and I love it. :-)

I chose the version with Google Voice Assistant, not because I actually want to use it, but because I thought I might maybe want to use it in the future. I thought I'd just not activate the GVA, and I could use it without Google, just like I did with other smart speakers before.

Unfortunately, I then found out that it's not possible to pair Bluetooth devices if the Google stuff hasn't been set up. What? I would never have expected that. And, honestly, for privacy reasons I'd rather not activate the Google stuff if I don't plan to use it, anyway.

I asked support if pairing BT devices would be possible without Google in future firmware versions, but they didn't know. (I can wait, I'm using Spotify Connect and AirPlay 2 at home, Bluetooth will only be relevant on vacations and maybe parties, but both won't happen within the next few months, obviously.)

I also asked if flashing a different firmware would make it possible to turn the GVA version into a non GVA version, and I was told no, that will not be possible. Which makes me wonder if there are actually hardware differences between the two versions?

So now I'm wondering if I should return my GVA Level and order a non GVA Level instead, but the non GVA version is not available yet, so it would take some time until I'd proud owner of a Level again.

But also, I'd like to know what the differences actually are. Are there any insiders here who can tell me more than the nothing that is available on the Bang&Olufsen web site? :-)

Especially, I'd like to know ...

  • ... if there are actually hardware differences, or if it's just licensing, or Bang&Olufsen doesn't want customers to flash a firmware manually or something like that?
  • ... if, apart from GVA itself, there will be stuff one of the versions can do that the other can't?
  • ... if, after Google setup has been performed, the GVA Level will send information to Google even if I don't use GVA? (Like information about other devices in my home network, or simply logging in to Google whenever switched on etc.)
  • ... anything else you might know. :-)

Thanks, zottel

Hi zottel,

Welcome to Beoworld!  I am also interested to find out the answer to this.  I have the GVA version of the Level (which is a great speaker, I just don't like Google!) - I will be swapping this to the non-GVA version as soon as the UK lockdown is over.  I will then report back with my findings.

Kind regards, Steve.

Location: The cable workshop, England

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+1 for those of us who prefer the non-GVA B&O products.

I don't want a microphone (aside from room calibration-related) in my products at all, so rather than purchasing a GVA product such as Level and turn GVA off, I would just prefer to purchase non-GVA versions.

B&O does sell a nom-GVA version of the Level.  It just doesn't seem to be available yet.

Hi Stan,

My dealer has told me that the non-GVA Level is available to pre-order, they should be available in March.  The non-GVA Level should have a microphone from what I hear, but it is for room calibration only.

I will keep you updated...

Kind regards, Steve.

Location: The cable workshop, England

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Wow, thanks for sharing this info ! I would have been very dissapointed if I bought the GVA version only to discover then that BT was not working with google disabled.

For sure now I need to wait for the non-GVA editions.

 

I’m waiting for the non-google gold model . Anyone got info about availability for that specific Level version ?

With respect to pairing BT without GVA, can't you just press the BT button on the control panel to open the Level for pairing?

Hi Stan,

On the GVA version of the Level, if you try to pair a device via Bluetooth without setting up the Google Home app, you get a voice prompt which says "Your device isn't set up yet, download the Google Home app to enable Bluetooth pairing"...

Kind regards, Steve.

Location: The cable workshop, England

My B&O Icons:

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Beomaster.png Beomaster.png
Beolab-18.png Beolab-18.png
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Thanks Steve... I thought it must have been more to it; hence, why I phrased my post as a question.  Then again, sometimes we overlook the obvious.

I decided that I'll send my GVA Level back next week, because the 30 days deadline will arrive soon, and I'll order the non GVA version instead. According to the online shop, it will only be available by end of March, so I'll have to try and survive without a Level for a few weeks, but I guess I'll manage.

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