BeoSound Essence 2nd Gen

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Roger wrote:

We started recommending customers to have less than 8 meters between the airplay product and the router, and less than that if (dry) walls are obstructing the signal - not to mention concrete walls. Most had to buy two additional AirPort Express devices set up as range extenders to have reliable coverage at home.

This sorted out most of the issues for most of customers... but AirPlay remains a challenge for quite a few people.

Roger

try Ruckus WiFi absolutely brilliant!

agree pro installers should avoid AirPlay like the plague.

AirPlay seems fine on Apple products but 3rd party, not just B&O is just grief, and for you DIYers only 🙂

Aussie Michael wrote:
I havent had any issues with my BL12 but i prefer the Bluetooth because if i want to use it in a spot where there is no network, BT is much easier. There is also direct connection too but i dont want to connect it as it drains the battery by charging the device.

That I do not understand. How do you connect via Bluetooth without network?

I guess you meant without WiFi network? If so, why is Bluetooth easier than WiFi? At least WiFi you can easily extend (I currently use half a dozen WiFi transmitters at our place, connected to each other by – believe it or not – ethernet cables) for having the Internet everywhere, so that AirPlay etc. are even working in the garden. However, Bluetooth as a comparison works just around the computer. There seem to exist Bluetooth extenders but I never had the ambition to support or extend more wireless protocols at my home than absolutely necessary.

Bluetooth streaming is nice, but no substitute for in-house streaming technologies like AirPlay and Google Cast - and the SQ is due to low bandwith much lower.

The biggest advantage is, that no wireless network is needed.

This makes it very usefull for mobile use cases (cars, garden, adhoc connections, lowcost audio equipment, compressed audio files...).

MM

Location: Flensborg————Danmark

Aussie Michael wrote:

I love my BL12 but I like the connectivity of the A2 better, so perhaps its time to change to the BL15 (or the 90 edition A9) lol

David Andel wrote:

That I do not understand. How do you connect via Bluetooth without network?

I guess you meant without WiFi network ? If so, why is Bluetooth easier than WiFi? At least WiFi you can easily extend (I currently use half a dozen WiFi transmitters at our place, connected to each other by – believe it or not – ethernet cables) for having the Internet everywhere, so that AirPlay etc. are even working in the garden. However, Bluetooth as a comparison works just around the computer. There seem to exist Bluetooth extenders but I never had the ambition to support or extend more wireless protocols at my home than absolutely necessary.

Out of interest @David which wifi extenders are you using ?

I tried to set up that exact star configuration wired Apple TCs as per their doco and not I, not the store, not help desk, not country expert could get them to work. So now they operate wirelessly ...

Chris Townsend wrote:

There is no misunderstanding on my part, or armies of people complaining about the Beolit 12 and in my case the A9 too.

I changed my router, and my dealer generously came and analysed my network. Still constant drop outs.

My new Beolit 15 has never dropped its signal. Beovision 7-55 Mk2, Beovision 8-32, Avant RF 28, Beolab 8000, Beolit 12, Beoplay A2, Beocom 2, Beotime, H6, Form 2.

The controller in the updated A9 gen2 works perfect.

elephant wrote:
Out of interest @David which wifi extenders are you using ?

None as a matter of fact. Every base station is working independently but emitting the exact same wireless network data and connected to the same switch (well two actually as there are two separate floors involved). I was suffering under wireless network troubles since around the Millennium and finally came to the conclusion that wiring the base stations to a switch would be the best approach. So forget about wirelessly extending your network (you might do what you want of course, but for me that’s finished business) – at least in my case it never worked as expected. I hate everything wireless as it’s usually not more than a nice theory working well in a very limited scenario (one emitter, one client, one room etc.)

Well, just try as I did, but you mileage may vary (and please stay nice if it doesn’t). Connect your base stations (I use Apple as well as AVM equipment) to one or more switches (managed or not) within the same network. Let them transmit under the same wireless network name and the same password – you might, however, use different channels per base (and let them keep their proper IP addresses etc. of course). Here at our place this works perfectly well, including the handover from one station to another during Facetime video calls. I’m using Bluetooth only for keyboards, mice and trackpads and it already ceases to function conveniently after 2,5-3 meters, version 4.0 included.

Thank you @David that was most informative.

I naively thought that if you wanted seamless jumping then they would need to know about one another.

So I could insert a small wired router in front of Uno and then connect Dos and Zero (should Cero😁).

I have small spare routers anyway, however do you have any particular recommendation(s) ?
Millemissen wrote:

Bluetooth streaming is nice, but no substitute for in-house streaming technologies like AirPlay and Google Cast - and the SQ is due to low bandwith much lower.

The biggest advantage is, that no wireless network is needed.

This makes it very usefull for mobile use cases (cars, garden, adhoc connections, lowcost audio equipment, compressed audio files...).

MM

There is a tv - and there is a BV.

This is not true. The new Bluetooth aptX which the A9 can receive is as good as CD quality.

http://www.aptx.com/howitworks2

I'm no expert on this but it does say "CD-like quality", not "CD quality".  I suspect some cheeky use of language here.

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