Duels wrote:

Simonbeo wrote:

 

Unlike recent products there seems to be no mention of a designer let alone an artist

 

 

Michael Anastassiade is the named designer.

his work for Flos is certainly less sculptural than Philippe Starck did for the same manufacturer. Very much of a fabricated tubing thing. Not Sculpture.

milva1 wrote:

Jeff wrote:

milva1 wrote:

For those of you who think that the Edge is expensive check out the latest competition in the same price range:

https://www.dali-speakers.com/loudspeakers/callisto/

 

Milton

Not really comparable though is it? Kind of like saying if you think the Edge is expensive you should look at the Beolab 50!

 

Callisto 2C (€2800/pair)

Callisto 6C (€3600/pair)

DALI Sound Hub (€600).

Aren't they comparable pricewise? Anyway, I'd say all major speaker producers are moving in this direction (hi end bluetooth active speakers controlled by mobile phones) for those who are sick and tired of low quality bluetooth gadgets. I think B&O just couldn't miss this appointment stating its' presence with a highly innovative product compared to more conservative ones (like the Dali's). Not suitable for a home cinema setup though....

I guess then my TV is comparable to the Edge, it cost about the same. Jeez Louise, we equate things by price now? A single point pseudo stereo speaker is the same as a media/receiver and two speakers? Aka a traditional stereo setup?

Millemissen wrote:

The ABL in the speakers is not possible without digital sound processing.

 

Releasing a ‘B&O Atmos soundbar’ would be too easy - that is not how things work at B&O.

 

MM

Bull. ABL predates DSP in B&O's speakers by a fair amount of time. My BL8000s have it, and I bought them in 1998.

And c'mon. Too easy? Yeah, let's not do something that would sell and be popular, because that's not the B&O way. If that's the case B&O deserves to go out of business, and their shareholders should consider impaling the management staff.

Jeff wrote:

Millemissen wrote:

The ABL in the speakers is not possible without digital sound processing.

Releasing a ‘B&O Atmos soundbar’ would be too easy - that is not how things work at B&O.

MM

Bull. ABL predates DSP in B&O's speakers by a fair amount of time. My BL8000s have it, and I bought them in 1998.

And c'mon. Too easy? Yeah, let's not do something that would sell and be popular, because that's not the B&O way. If that's the case B&O deserves to go out of business, and their shareholders should consider impaling the management staff.

@MM, 

I don't claim to be real smart but I think I understand the difference between analog and digital processing. After all, they taught ASP in physics when even I was in University. You could change the size of the can of either end of the string, or the string, itself. Don't forget some of us old fans were hobbyists and would have loved to be in your industry. I needed to pay bills so I have lived my career in manufacturing. 

Please demonstrate how Speaker Profiles in a BeoSystem 3 and associated TVs being much more than stored profiles of crossover, bass, and treble, ie. ASP. BS3 is digital video/analog audio (masterlink) while BS4 is all digital to analog audio (netlink)/digital video. That is a STEP CHANGE and is the main reason I would NEVER again consider a video product pre-BV11. If I have that wrong, please tell me. Otherwise, consider accepting that I wasn't challenging your wisdom or backroom knowledge of B&O, just thinking Shape could drive a wall of multi-channel audio without breaking a sweat... unless, of course, B&O overcommitted on Core and is too proud to admit it, so is creating a different narrative to save face. 

Now I will go lick my wounds

Jeff wrote:

milva1 wrote:

Jeff wrote:

milva1 wrote:

For those of you who think that the Edge is expensive check out the latest competition in the same price range:

https://www.dali-speakers.com/loudspeakers/callisto/

 

Milton

Not really comparable though is it? Kind of like saying if you think the Edge is expensive you should look at the Beolab 50!

 

Callisto 2C (€2800/pair)

Callisto 6C (€3600/pair)

DALI Sound Hub (€600).

Aren't they comparable pricewise? Anyway, I'd say all major speaker producers are moving in this direction (hi end bluetooth active speakers controlled by mobile phones) for those who are sick and tired of low quality bluetooth gadgets. I think B&O just couldn't miss this appointment stating its' presence with a highly innovative product compared to more conservative ones (like the Dali's). Not suitable for a home cinema setup though....

I guess then my TV is comparable to the Edge, it cost about the same. Jeez Louise, we equate things by price now? A single point pseudo stereo speaker is the same as a media/receiver and two speakers? Aka a traditional stereo setup?

No, we are not talking about a traditional stereo setup. There is no media/receiver but just a hub (advanced but just a hub) since we are talking about a two-speaker system. The system didn't receive Eisa best product award 2018/19 for nothing! What I meant in my previous post is that standards were already high enough when the Edge appeared and B&O had to make a unique approach without raising prices  above competition. In this respect, the Edge is not expensive provided that sound quality is what are used to expect from B&O

Milton  

Interesting stuff from the Archived Forum - a thread from november 2009, the time where AST (in the BSys3-based products) was introduced.

Please notice that Geoff Martin has some comments there too.

There is also a link there to a FlatpanelsHD page, with a brief overview.

MM

Here is another one:

How do you get from ABL to AST?

Jeff wrote:

And c'mon. Too easy? Yeah, let's not do something that would sell and be popular, because that's not the B&O way. If that's the case B&O deserves to go out of business, and their shareholders should consider impaling the management staff.