jg1976 wrote:

Millemissen: Yes, sounds incredible for me too... Wonder what is going on at B&O..

A quick look at Deezers HIFI own homepage they refer to B&O as brand that all their product will support Deezer HIFI.

Now this makes me wonder... I’ve also asked Deezer themselves a question if they have a specific product-list. No answer yet...

The device list can be seen here - I guess the Wikipedia has it right:

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Besides - as far as I have understood the techology behind how Deezer streaming works, the stream is fetched to the device directly.....the app is merely the control point.

This means, that the ‘ability of the app to handle FLAC’  should not be a question here.

MM

Did some more listening today, Core versus Deezer app via AirPlay and BL50s. Today I do not hear a discernible difference.

jg1976 wrote:

What is your thoughts about this?

Again, B&O support answer is BS .... Deezer is a device (Core, Moment, A6, BS1, BS2, A6,A9, M5, M3, etc ) integrated music service as written in their respective tech description. B&O App is a controller (start/stop/forward/backward/search/etc..) and is not streaming any Deezer music flow to any device. What the app shows in the now playing screen is what the device’s integrated music service, I.e. Deezer, streams.

Way to demonstrate it: start a Deezer Hifi stream on a product from your B&O app and shutdown your app or even better the device running the app ... streaming continues ? Is it a miracle???

This topic was very interesting for me. I have a Deezer Hifi account and using the Core.

So I also contact the support. As mentioned in the forum they confirmed that when in the B&O App the symbol is FLAC, than the streaming is in Hifi Quality, see below!

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As I have Deezer HiFi back, i did a small test:

Play a track (Space Oddity 2019 mix) from the Core itself (Deezer service).

Play the same track on the Deezer app running on an iPad streaming AP2 to the Core.

Monitor my ISP network traffic:

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Conclusion:

On the left side you can see the Core/Deezer traffic. Shorter in height (kB/s) but longer in time than the right side which is the Deezer app playing the same track, caching the data much more (higher bandwidth usage, shorter time). Looking at the graphs we can easily see that the volume of transferred data is almost the same in both cases. I then assume that the Core effectively leverages Deezer HiFi.

From a listening perspective (I place myself in the sweet spot of my 5 speakers), my old ears do have a preference for the Core/Deezer service v.s. Deezer app/AP2/Core. Sound is sharper and warmer, specially for the bass.

I then listened to the same tack from a LP, 1973 edition ..... sound is even better to my ears.

Thanks for that, interesting.

No surprise that the vinyl was preferable.

Some of my older vinyl from the 70s/80s sounds much richer than streamed files.

 

 

mbolo01 wrote:

As I have Deezer HiFi back, i did a small test:

Play a track (Space Oddity 2019 mix) from the Core itself (Deezer service).

Play the same track on the Deezer app running on an iPad streaming AP2 to the Core.

Monitor my ISP network traffic:

Login to view image

Conclusion:

On the left side you can see the Core/Deezer traffic. Shorter in height (kB/s) but longer in time than the right side which is the Deezer app playing the same track, caching the data much more (higher bandwidth usage, shorter time). Looking at the graphs we can easily see that the volume of transferred data is almost the same in both cases. I then assume that the Core effectively leverages Deezer HiFi.

From a listening perspective (I place myself in the sweet spot of my 5 speakers), my old ears do have a preference for the Core/Deezer service v.s. Deezer app/AP2/Core. Sound is sharper and warmer, specially for the bass.

I then listen to the same tack from a LP, 1973 edition ..... and sound is even better to my ears.

 

Very interesting test, to see how different they act to optimize their usage of the connection.

 

Another interesting test would be to play the same song via BS Moment and have your BL18 connected via WISA. If I understand everything correctly, the digital signal would not be converted to analog until it meets the DAC in the speakers. How does that sound compared to BS Core, where I assume you used the built-in DACs.

Moningsand wrote:

Another interesting test would be to play the same song via BS Moment and have your BL18 connected via WISA.

I can’t do the suggested test, both Core and Moment are wired to a TR 1 doing the WISA job and I have no PL cables to play with.

Am I the only one becoming increasingly irritated with the Core’s lack of built-in support for high-rez streaming? See my other thread on the topic.

Perhaps we should all be getting Bluesound Node 2i’s. Mine arrives today. We’ll see if I can hear a difference in the higher rez music streams.

Just another sad example of B&O’s less than impressive software. Their hardware is the best though! But come on, B&O...

Curly wrote:

Am I the only one becoming increasingly irritated with the Core’s lack of built-in support for high-rez streaming? See my other thread on the topic.

Perhaps we should all be getting Bluesound Node 2i’s. Mine arrives today. We’ll see if I can hear a difference in the higher rez music streams.

Just another sad example of B&O’s less than impressive software. Their hardware is the best though! But come on, B&O...

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Please let us know your thought on the Bluesound. I have been considering one also and am also currently using a Core with my 50s.