Steve at Sounds Heavenly wrote:

Hi MM,

As of the launch date, pairing is available either through Chromecast or via a cabled input using a specially wired cable to both speakers.  The technical guy at B&O who I spoke to prior to the launch said that other wireless pairing options may become available in a forthcoming software update, ie. to allow a wired input to one speakers and a wireless link to a second speaker, although this doesn't appear to be available at the launch.

Room compensation is on a similar principle to Beolab 5, ie. the speakers each measure the transfer function of the room from the speaker position,  instead of taking a measurement at the listening position.  Hence, each speaker should account for its position with respect to room nodes as well as the overall room response.

Kind regards, Steve.

Thanks!

This ‘specially wired cable’ is that one from you or simething that the B&O deales have access to?

Wating for that software update - eager to hear two set probably up with a tv/BV.

MM

Carolpa wrote:

Ulrike wrote:

 

As far as Roon is concerned, Airplay control also works with any operating system such as Android, Windows or Linux.

 

I guess a device as a remote control would be Linux based.

 

Airplay or CC are just “surrogate” solutions for Roon

 

If B&o would support Roon’s Raat then you would have all benefits of Roon.

 

 

Yes, you are right, though CC built-in sounds better than AP, but for that reason I thought about the optical connection and if it would work to connect a RAAT speaking streamer to it.

I have a small unused Raspi Digione with spdif HAT, set as a ROON bridge with Dietpi on sd card, so I could try it out  ;)

Sandyb wrote:

We dont know really I guess.

One has to assume they are not quite so simple as to count headphone only customers, and are actually using some real world usage data and sensibly.

But who on earth knows - but its irrelevant now, its done, NL will go.

And remember, the internal sources from their own products may well be gone too.

 

 

 

AnalogPlanet wrote:

Sandyb wrote:

If indeed only 10% of customers use NL, that again underlines the assumption behind that decision.

Yes. And what if the total number of customers includes ones who bought only BT headphones once? What if people who have only headphones and cannot even use NL are part of that statistics? Do we know factually B&O has a solid insight?

 

Sadly this all demonstrates another failure of audio strategy which abandons yet another generation of technology to get buggier and buggier with services inevitably being lost over time.  BeoSound 5, BeoSound Moment and now BeoSound Multiroom have all been expensive beta tests for us B&O owners, never developed as intimated and rarely stable.

If either AirPlay 2 or ChromeCast were functional multiroom solutions, I suspect not many of us would care about this change.  But they are not, and so B&O remove themselves from the multiroom marketplace, leaving it to specialists.  Where I believe they may have got this judgement wrong is that they are also specialists, whether they like it or not, and the regression of BeoPlay proves it.  Unlike volume competitors HEOS and BlueSound, Sonos can't even be bothered to sue B&O (unless that's the reason they are ditching BeoLink Multiroom  - to avoid a crippling court case).

B&O have always had small numbers of customers who are highly loyal and buy large numbers of products.  Without any USPs left, they are simply another manufacturer of nice speakers, and nowadays there are many others competing for that space.  How good they do or don't sound is something most people in the marketplace for a nice new speaker will never find out nowadays, as they buy blind off the internet.

I hope they prove me wrong, but history tells me that they will take at least 3 years to get this platform working well, and by then they will be in the throes of abandoning it for one reason or another.

Esax wrote:

Sounds like a beolab 50 

Really?! That's kind of promising. I haven't listened to it yet, but if what you're saying is true, then it sort of makes them promising as a solid option as a stereo pair for a main sound system.... or am I hoping for too much? 

On a side note, your comment on temperature is a bit concerning. Implementing large heat fins would have been interesting to include in the design, but we're way passed the design phase now haha

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Esax wrote:

Sounds like a beolab 50 though obviously not with the same punch or distinct bass.

So not much like a beolab 50 after all then!

Puncher wrote:

Esax wrote:

Sounds like a beolab 50 though obviously not with the same punch or distinct bass.

So not much like a beolab 50 after all then!

So, almost, but not completely, unlike a Beolab 50? 😎

Millemissen wrote:

Thanks!

This ‘specially wired cable’ is that one from you or simething that the B&O deales have access to?

Wating for that software update - eager to hear two set probably up with a tv/BV.

MM

Hi MM,

The cable for wired stereo pairing of the Balance is one that I have tested, there is nothing available from B&O dealers as far as I am aware (unless they get it from me!) 😁 I have a range of wired options for the Balance to allow it to be used with any classic or vintage B&O music system made since 1961.

Kind regards, Steve.