Beosound Balance

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@mm it should have been called the Beoroom Balance, then we could all abreviate it to BrB/brb lolšŸ˜Ž

It seems like the remotes are going the bt/wifi route, so maybe there is something possible over net commands that we’re unaware of as of now. Let’s wait and see what the Halo does.

We better thanks our dealers in advance for the Halo being released when it will be, as b&o had their usual idea of releasing it half baked...

Ulrike wrote:

Steve at Sounds Heavenly wrote:

andybandy wrote:

@steve at sounds heavenly

have you try the optical connection to a 3 part tv? 

are we sure we dont have delay or lipsync here? Since you say in the video you can use the balance as a tv speaker. 

Hi andybandy,

I haven't had a chance to try this myself yet, but B&O's design team have told me this will be possible.  I hope to be able to confirm the latency via the optical input in the coming weeks.

Kind regards, Steve.

 

Hi, 


I can confirm that it works with my BS2, setting via the app:

Settings => Sound => Line-In => Set Line-In to "Low" and below disable "Delay" and confirm settings. 

I've made some screenshots and I hope the German instead of English labeling is understandable.

Works perfectly though NOT optical.

 

As you confirm, using rhe line input on the newer B&O devices (with line-in sense) is not a problem.....that’s not new.

Whether the option of choosing a specific delay with the Balance is there/in the settings of the Balance, is a question that yet has to be answered....originally this feature (as the pics show) was there in order to get syncroniced sound in BL-multiroom.

 

There is little sense in telling us that it is possible to have syncroniced sound from a tv (using optical) without having tested it.........just showung a cable does not help anyone (sorry Steve).

I rember that this failed with the Stage due to the processing of the sound in the Stage.

Will that be similar with the Balace? There is a lot of processing goung on there too..

We need practical tests....please!

 

Steve also in the video mentions ā€˜stereo pairing’.......just so - but without explaing how that should be done!

(I know, you can stereo pair via CC, but that is not the case here.....when we speak of cabled connection.

Steve, please comment on this!

 

 

In a use case, where you would have only one Balance cinnected to a tv.....where should you place that?

We know that it has an inpressing ā€˜stereo-like’ sound, when playing music sources.

But where to put it to have a coherent experience of both picture and sound from the tv from your seating position?

I guess in front of the tv is no option ;-(

Having two of these set up for left and right could be awesome.....but how do we do that???

 

MM

Location: Flensborg————Danmark

Millemissen wrote:

P.S. I wonder why no one reacted to my comment/question about the need for the (hardware) remote, BeoRemote One in the future......when there will be no NL and no Bang & Olufsen app controlling of the devices anymore.

Isn’t anyone using the BeoRemote with their audio devices???

MM

There is a tv - and there is a BV.

I use the remote all the time. The remote makes everything easy in my setup. The 4 mybuttons are very handy for every one in the house. It also controls all the lights etc in the house via the gateway.

Using only a smartphone/tablet as a remote is not handy at all compared with the beoremote...

Nico

nico vercammen wrote:
Millemissen wrote:

 

 

 

P.S. I wonder why no one reacted to my comment/question about the need for the (hardware) remote, BeoRemote One in the future......when there will be no NL and no Bang & Olufsen app controlling of the devices anymore.

 

Isn’t anyone using the BeoRemote with their audio devices???

 

MM

 

There is a tv - and there is a BV.

 

 

 

 

I use the remote all the time. The remote makes everything easy in my setup. The 4 mybuttons are very handy for every one in the house. It also controls all the lights etc in the house via the gateway.

 

Using only a smartphone/tablet as a remote is not handy at all compared with the beoremote...

 

 

 

 

Nico

Yes, I agree.....but wouldn’t that be hisory, soon (if you’d follow the new B&O-route).

MM

Location: Flensborg————Danmark

Hi MM,

Yes, that is a good point, I will be doing some further tests very soon to confirm the best for use with a non-B&O TV via optical.  I'm just waiting for a call back from B&O Technical regarding minimum latency settings.

For stereo pairing, B&O have told me prior to the launch that you can cable into one speaker (analogue audio or optical) and then wirelessly link the second speaker.  In this case, the speakers would be placed either side of the TV.

Using a single speaker directly in front/below the TV would be interesting, as this appears to have the capability to give some measure of stereo spread from a single point.....again, further tests to follow asap.

Kind regards, Steve.

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My dealer hinted that there will be separate solutions for TV released on the new Audio Engine. We badly need a successor to the BeoLink handbook/BeoIntegration Catalogue.

Steve at Sounds Heavenly wrote:

Hi MM,

For stereo pairing, B&O have told me prior to the launch that you can cable into one speaker (analogue audio or optical) and then wirelessly link the second speaker.  In this case, the speakers would be placed either side of the TV.

 

Could you please do some following up on this.

That is nothing that I have heard of.

Apart from pairing through CC the only orher way I can think of is using BT like with the smaller devices and the S3.

Would be nice to have this clarified.

However, when I think about stereo pairing these ā€˜speakers’, I immediately think that the room compensation feature should be taken into account for the two speakers to work together in the riom.

MM

Location: Flensborg————Danmark

Hi MM,

As of the launch date, pairing is available either through Chromecast or via a cabled input using a specially wired cable to both speakers.  The technical guy at B&O who I spoke to prior to the launch said that other wireless pairing options may become available in a forthcoming software update, ie. to allow a wired input to one speakers and a wireless link to a second speaker, although this doesn't appear to be available at the launch.

Room compensation is on a similar principle to Beolab 5, ie. the speakers each measure the transfer function of the room from the speaker position,  instead of taking a measurement at the listening position.  Hence, each speaker should account for its position with respect to room nodes as well as the overall room response.

Kind regards, Steve.

Location: The cable workshop, England

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Ulrike wrote:

As far as Roon is concerned, Airplay control also works with any operating system such as Android, Windows or Linux.

I guess a device as a remote control would be Linux based.

Airplay or CC are just ā€œsurrogateā€ solutions for Roon

If B&o would support Roon’s Raat then you would have all benefits of Roon.

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