I don't see the AppleTV and the BeoSound 5 as in the same category. But a lot of people were clearly hoping for video integration, etc., and so B&O finds itself looking for ways to implement this. That's not my point at all - I would have loved to see an uncompromisingly audiophile BS5, as described above.

Just a small correction: you do not have to switch on the TV to use AppleTV, you can switch ATV on, put it in standby, and access all of its stored or networked resources using an iPod Touch, and you can send the sound of ATV to any room in the house equipped with an airtunes unit, again just using a Touch or iPhone.

The screen image that would have been on your television is sent to your hand. Accessing and controlling media is very simple.

Peter2 wrote:

I don't have a problem lifting myself out of a chair to change tracks, anyone who is familiar with the days of vinyl will appreciate this is a small inconvenience, though will still look forward to a two way remote when this eventually comes (maybe an iPhone app?).

With a decent two way remote isn't the BS5 redundant? I think a lot of folk think the BS5 should've been the decent two way remote!

Puncher and tripenglish said it right; The BS 5 should have been the 2-way remote! Imagine that unit on your coffee table...brilliant!

Puncher wrote:

With a decent two way remote isn't the BS5 redundant? I think a lot of folk think the BS5 should've been the decent two way remote!

Yes, you're right as the Beosound 5 simply controls the BM5. A two-way remote would interact with the BM5. All the software is based on the BM5 not the BS5.

moxxey wrote:

Puncher wrote:

With a decent two way remote isn't the BS5 redundant? I think a lot of folk think the BS5 should've been the decent two way remote!

Yes, you're right as the Beosound 5 simply controls the BM5. A two-way remote would interact with the BM5. All the software is based on the BM5 not the BS5.

now that would of been a fantastic product in the wish list, it cannot be that hard to make a product that is as userfreidnly as I tunes

Exactly.

Wireless - and I can place it next to my listening chair or next to the sofa. If I can have WLAN in a small phone, there must be room for the card in the BS5.

Interacts easily with whatever sound source I have, that is digitally stored, without my having to reload these.

Allows 24bit/96kHz files (to the limit of the BL5s - but I would like to see 24bit/192kHz, and an upgrade for existing BL5s.)

The same interaction as today, but with a service for album art, so that I can easily replace low resolution covers.

A net service to B&O's site for purchasing both CD and higher than CD-resolution sources, either as a stand-alone, or as a portal to the many such offers that are appearing now. (Check out HD-Tracks for their high-resolution store.)

The docking unit is hidden away, connected to my speakers and to the wireless unit. Maybe the BS5/BM5 is even capable of controlling my B&O CD-player and to pass its signal through, without my having to touch the Beo4 or Beo5, everything happens through the BS5 control panel.

I would probably have two of those now. If it existed. And what bothers me is that they could easily have done it ... with what they used.

Slightly OT but related in a way -

I love my AV5 and its well sought after even today. :P

I have a 3 zone sonos system set up in my house.  One zone is connected to my BS9000 via the aux, and I have 2 other free standing zones including outdoor patio speakers.  All wireless and the sound is great.  If B&O made the BS5 wireless with all of the functionality of the sonos, I'd buy it in a second.  But now, why? 

The BS5 is hardwired into the BM5 and cannot be moved.  It lacks the ability to stream Rhapsody and Sirius like the sonos.  It's, honestly, quite expensive for what it can't do.  My dealer called my up when this unit came out knowing I was interested in it, but he was too late.  I already had the sonos and it just does so much more. 

Make it wireless, get the ability to stream music services, keep that special B&O tactile magical feel and I'd buy it in a second.

Dude1 wrote:

I love my AV5 and its well sought after even today. :P

Sorry, what I meant  is not completely AV5 only implementation of CD-i format, to implement such format they spent to much money and recourse ..