Round and round we go...  wasn't it about 2 years ago that Apple was going to launch their TV and B&O was toast?  Haven't seen this Apple TV and B&O still appears to be in business.  I don't know why anybody in their right mind would enter the TV market right now - saturated market, huge capital costs, weak economy, razor thin margins, the weaker Japanese manufacturers are on the ropes...  If there's a company that can do it, perhaps it is Apple, but I'm not seeing it - they haven't exactly wowed since Mr Jobs passed on.  

Smart TVs seem like a dead-end to me... I don't want a TV that is obsolete in 2 years.  Buy a Smart DVD or Apple TV that can be easily upgraded when/if the "killer" TV apps arrive (and will undoubtedly require more smarts than your current smart TV - this is just the march of technology).  I can live without "all in one" if this means a 2 year upgrade cycle (assuming smart TVs start behaving like smart phones)... 

Was there a financial statement I missed that is sparking this doom and gloom?  They closed some stores and dropped the BS4, and we're putting them on death watch?  Maybe this is just creative destruction - cleaning out the deadwood so the tree can grow stronger - we just have to wait a bit to see the results.

B&O has their work cut out for them, like every other electronics company (yes, even Apple), but if the BeoPlay stuff is selling, I think this is a good thing.  Not much of anything is selling for anybody right now...

Stan

Stan, it takes 3 years minimum to develop a TV set. Normally, Apple should launch his iTV at the end of this year. Apple contact last summer an expert as Loewe to corporate together. Shame that it is not with B&O.

It's wonderful to see such a miserable bunch on this site these days. Makes for very humorous reading. And it is lovely to see that the crystal ball gazing crowd/profession is still alive and kicking!

I think you should watch this space. BNO have done well with the current economic climate in bringing out a range of product at the pace they have. I agree they need to smarten their BNOVisions, but that is happening.

There is a mighty speaker in the midst. Start saving.

They have been a bit quiet, because they have been busy working on new fun stuff. Expect to see the dismal BM5 sent to retirement and a new, better, more interesting and versatile kit come along.

HAVE SOME FAITH!

Dude1 wrote:

There is a mighty speaker in the midst. Start saving.

 

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Dude1 wrote:

It's wonderful to see such a miserable bunch on this site these days. Makes for very humorous reading. And it is lovely to see that the crystal ball gazing crowd/profession is still alive and kicking!

With respect, a healthy debate, positive or negative, hardly makes for humorous reading. If we sat here saying "it's great, everything is great!" in every other thread, the discussion would rather false and boring. I'd say this forum is the most *positive* forum I've ever been on - most other forums are full of woe and negativity. Even Apple forums contain multiple pages of threads about their iPads being slightly too warm, or having screen ghosting and so on.

All people are doing here is giving an opinion on what's happening right *now*. Until we see this top end speaker (which my dealer mentioned over a year ago), we can't comment on it, until it arrives. And it hasn't arrived. All we can comment on is a lack of high-end audio systems, since they've cancelled the BC2, BS9000 and BS4.

You do understand the amount of money we push in to this brand? I recently spent £1000 on two BeoCom 5's, which simply do not work. I have a right to be somewhat negative about this. Do you just want me to lie, avoid the forum and pretend everything is superb? I think that's what some users expect - no negativity at all. Bury your head if something doesn't perform as expected.

I love the brand - we all do, that's why we registered on a B&O-only forum - but you can debate either way. That's called being a paying customer. Paying customers have a right to their opinion. Mostly these opinions are positive (for instance, I love my BeoSound 4, whereas other people have said on another forum that it won't be missed), but sometimes they can be balanced with a little worry, a little negativity. I'm totally confused how that winds up certain people on this board. There's a handful of users who just object to it. Again, as I've said before, maybe this "passion" is a little too passionate.

I am agree with you Moxxey because I

am passionate too. ;-)

Dude1 wrote:

It's wonderful to see such a miserable bunch on this site these days. Makes for very humorous reading. And it is lovely to see that the crystal ball gazing crowd/profession is still alive and kicking!

I think you should watch this space. BNO have done well with the current economic climate in bringing out a range of product at the pace they have. I agree they need to smarten their BNOVisions, but that is happening.

There is a mighty speaker in the midst. Start saving.

They have been a bit quiet, because they have been busy working on new fun stuff. Expect to see the dismal BM5 sent to retirement and a new, better, more interesting and versatile kit come along.

HAVE SOME FAITH!

The CEO at Bang and Olufsen should read this thread because the comments in this thread are from people who actually purchase the more expensive B&O products.  Many such as myself have been into the brand for a long time.  We all understand the worldwide economic situation and probably are more forgiving due to these problems.  Customer communication is important and doesn't require a new flashy catalog.  All B&O has to do is send an email maybe indicating there are exciting things coming.  I received an email from Mercedes Benz a few days ago teasing the outline of a new S Class model.  I am not looking for a new car but I possibly might in a year.

I realize the Beoplay products are for the 25 to 35 year old iPhone crowd but unfortunately these people don't have a lot of money to acquire an A9 after barely having the money to buy a Macbook Pro.  Unemployment among this educated group is still very high but slowly improving.

My last large purchase, about 3 years ago was a pair of Beolab 9s and a Beosound 5.....love the Beolabs but hate the Beosound 5.  In fact my Beosound 5 has been unplugged for about 6 months.  Maybe B&O will have a special deal for the lost Beosound 5 owners.

I don't think we are miserable.  However many of us are concerned.  I believe that once a B&O owner drifts away from the brand, they probably don't come back.

 

 

I do not understand why everyone think Apple will have a TV and B&O is dead.  I doubt Apple would be successful with a TV.  Apple comes out with a New model of their products every year, who is going to buy a new TV every year or everyother year, not me. 

B&O will be fine, they just need to some some decent Audio.  Personally, I think they need a digital, turntable, tuner w/ AM&FM and CD.  Vinyl is still big is the US, just ask Neil Young.

Ask not what Apple can do for you – ask what you can do for Apple :

pay year after year

God bless Apple

AMEN

olvisab wrote:

Ask not what Apple can do for you – ask what you can do for Apple :

pay year after year

God bless Apple

AMEN

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