BeoBoy68 wrote:

I hope either that B&O will launch new audio system. Beo is synonym of Radio from the beginning. I think Bang & Olufsen will survive even if TVs are overpriced.

I do like to see B&O as "audiocenter", in my opinion it is useless to try to make short lifespan items like MP3 players or such. Beo should be like UI between user and source, like before, user - B&O - casette/record/cd... I mean, B&O didn't make own casettes, records and so, why now make MP3's? (imo they are mostly storages for audio). Imagine B&O as music center with Beolabs, if neceseary with Beovision, and you could adapt any source you prefer to it. B&O should have it own "OS" and modular interface to other media, whatever it will be. Customers could choice moduls they want, airplay, ethernet, bluetooth or future liveware, what ever. B&O "OS" makes internal stuff like masterlink, no need to go outside to airplay or so, it is up to updateable interface. Like before customer had choise between casette, record, cd or could choise all of them.

B&O could have high quality digital players, DACs..., but they should also be updatealbe, otherwise they will die very soon as technology moves fast, but that could be area best to leave those like apple or samsung.

Hi Everyone

I read this thread with some real interest as i have been feeling like im stuck between a rock and a hard place with B&o over the last few months.

Why did i fall in love with B&o? It was the intergration, automation, futuristic way the system worked, I had friends come over and they were impressed with my latest TV or my 20 year old beocenter that still looks like it was made in 2040 :)

My TV BV7 MK4/5 cannot remember which at the mo is excellent and i love my beemer output and SD distrubution around my home, its warentee has run out and i wanted to upgrade it BUT..... there is no replacement for the BV7 apart form the BV11 which means i would loose my ML setup which is why i wanted B&o in the first place, i would loose my SD dist unless i spend ££££ on some HDMI sender that i dont actually need with the BV3 in my bedroom.

My stereo is perfect beocenter 9300, it did have some lab 12's conencted but they were gutless and was the first time i experainced my friends saying you spend how much on speakers that dont perform? So they went back and i ended up buying some B&W speakers powered by a Rotel AMP that is triggered by the 9300 - Perfect solution sounds excellent but not possible with B&O unless i spend many many thousands on another pair of lab 9's that are great but not good for parties as they are to low for ear height.

I asked a dealer what i should buy that will intergrate my current setup and give me the future possibilities and there was nothing that will do it.

B&o have not listened to their customers and what they want, they should tell there customers what is coming or failing that at least tell us what will not be possible so we can make choices.

The change from ML to NL has been poor as no one knows what is possible or when anything will appear, i feel sorry for the dealers who cannot tell their customers the basic concepts behind what they can buy.

Modern products seem to be produced in China - the lab 12's had made in china stamped on the back and that is not the service we want.

Im not being negative as trust me i love(d) the brand and the concept behind ML etc but now if you look at this forum its quiet, we have nothign to talk about with new products, changes ML/NL etc. It feels like its a company with nothing coming and people are getting board waiting.

If you remove / dont announce any more intergration eventually people will drift away and i fear its already underway.........

Raeuber wrote:

Hi Seanie,

 

 

I also use ML and RF link for audio and video distribution and I won't miss it.

 

 

With the new NL products without ML anymore, there is no way to integrate one of these new products without disadvantages in audio and video distribution.

 

 

So the only way to go is waiting if NL will also be able to distribute audio and video all over the house. If so, you must change all your video and audio sources at the same time, you can only keep your Beolabs. So which products will old B&O customers buy until then? None! Very dangerous for a small brand like B&O!

 

 

Regards

 

 

Räuber

Hi there

I prob wont miss RF and ML distrubution also as long as i dont have to spend thousands on replacement of a system that is already working. when MCL became ML everything was considered by the look of it, this time around its all like one big secret.

Also i agree very dangerous to assume people will follow the trend, back to your core business is what i think.

Control 4 looks very interesting but same setup dealer only so not my cup of tea not being in control of my setup.

its disappointing that they dont announce something at least to kepe us chomping at the bit.

Very all in one loudspeaker centric I am afraid. I think it is high time for B&O to dive into the competitive PC soundcard/videocard field too. Perhaps an all in one TV from B&O sooner rather later? 

And B&O really has to be more audio-centric if it is going to survive that is I mean the video giants are churning out video technologies faster than we can spell them. Perhaps be a little more invested in the audio industry marketing wise? Like how Linn and B&W have their own recording etc... And no 24bit support really?! 

Speaking of Video OMFG my new neighbor has a Beovision 4 100 inch monster in his living! IMHO for that price and size I'd rather buy a piece of art or something. Speaking of rapid devaluation!

Actually recently I am into jewelry so if there are any sugar daddies or mommies out there.... I get into anything!!!! ... lol...

I am only half joking... 

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jldmelb wrote:

I wrote this in another thread, but I think it is also apt here:

The big problem I see is not the loss of the Beosound 4, but the fact that B&O is becoming less and less a complete audio/visual solution for everyone.

B&O seem to be going through a period of being lost in what they do. They're bringing out products that suit different needs, but not looking at the complete picture like they used to...

Bleak

wonderfulelectric wrote:

Very all in one loudspeaker centric I am afraid. I think it is high time for B&O to dive into the competitive PC soundcard/videocard field too. Perhaps an all in one TV from B&O sooner rather later? 

What do you mean when you say "all-in-one TV"? A smart tv can definately be used as an all-in-one, playing all your music, listening to (internet) radio and so on. I don't get that comment.

As for PC audio cards, I can't see why they should enter that arena. I can't see what they would add to the table at all. Other companies do those things better and cheaper. It's just a component, not a retail product.

wonderfulelectric wrote:

Perhaps be a little more invested in the audio industry marketing wise?

Making a plethora of speakers, making ICE power and selling that to third-parties, and not ignoring the audio on flat screen tellies is not being audio centric? Really?

wonderfulelectric wrote:

Like how Linn and B&W have their own recording etc

Why would they? Go buy your music elsewhere. It's a waste of money running that sort of thing (edit: a retail high resolution niche record company). Except, of course, if you cater to the audiophile crowd who think they can hear a difference between properly sized cables.

wonderfulelectric wrote:

And no 24bit support really?! 

What are you on about? The Encore plays 24bit/96kHz just fine. I don't know about the playmaker or the BM5. But you do have a choice to play 24bit files.

wonderfulelectric wrote:

Speaking of Video OMFG my new neighbor has a Beovision 4 100 inch monster in his living! IMHO for that price and size I'd rather buy a piece of art or something. Speaking of rapid devaluation!

That's the nature of the beast. Technology moves fast in that arena. Personally, I won't buy a big telly until it gets to 4K (and reasonable in price for that).