Sandyb wrote:

Well yes I agree.

Hence my posts earlier / elsewhere that the form factor should have been a little bigger, even if that meant only 10-20% bigger. That would have allowed a slightly bigger screen, and hence browsing may not have been so cramped. 

Or why not a bigger circular screen within the same ring footprint? Again, more screen real estate, more browsing possibilities. 

I'm not talking about a screen so big that it replicates the big screen browsing of a tablet. But this as it is is smaller than even old iPhone screen sizes.

Even leaving the Halo as it is, there is scope for adding a horizontally scrolling play queue - it's not brilliant does this way on the Moment, but its still ok and offers the ability to jump around to different points in the queue.

But yes, as you say, B&O must be assuming there are sufficient people for whom the predefined triggering is enough.  Slightly escapes me though - with the streaming services offering a universe of music, a few set playlists is enough?

 

A bigger hand held puck with a decent screen could've been cool - looking like a google Nest, it could've kept the outer ring, been able to do all it does now but also browse and display artwork etc. and the display could've used a gyro so that it was always vertical regardless of how you pick up the device.

Not really a technical challenge!

I thought, the new remote would be something like: B&O app integrated in a "remote device".  Maximum performance (because just "one app") and all the app possibilities, a cool form factor and no need for a pad or mobile any more.

I can*t see the added value

 

Exactly - and I'm not talking something much bigger (2x the size), I'm talking about something 20% or so bigger.

That would have facilitated a little more information and possibilities on screen, whilst remaining elegant enough.

And thats why it seems to me that form has been given too much priority over function.

The Verge report on the Halo, whilst definitely snippy and snarky, does summarise my point. The journalist suggests they cant work out what it is for or what it does. Now of course some of that would become clearer if they played around with it, but she is not that far off when she concedes its just a remote in a different shape. And where it chimes with my observations is that a device with a touchscreen like this these days leads to expectations that it can do a bunch of things.   Even those here who have one or have welcomed it seem to say the same, albeit with a more constructive tone i.e it needs to do quite a bit more.

Anyway, as we've had time to ponder the possibilities both form and function wise during the near year long wait, some clearly were hoping for something inspired by the Beo 6 and its customisation flexibility.  Surely what we got was nowhere near that?

Thats a rhetorical question for the record.

 

Puncher wrote:

Sandyb wrote:

Well yes I agree.

Hence my posts earlier / elsewhere that the form factor should have been a little bigger, even if that meant only 10-20% bigger. That would have allowed a slightly bigger screen, and hence browsing may not have been so cramped. 

Or why not a bigger circular screen within the same ring footprint? Again, more screen real estate, more browsing possibilities. 

I'm not talking about a screen so big that it replicates the big screen browsing of a tablet. But this as it is is smaller than even old iPhone screen sizes.

Even leaving the Halo as it is, there is scope for adding a horizontally scrolling play queue - it's not brilliant does this way on the Moment, but its still ok and offers the ability to jump around to different points in the queue.

But yes, as you say, B&O must be assuming there are sufficient people for whom the predefined triggering is enough.  Slightly escapes me though - with the streaming services offering a universe of music, a few set playlists is enough?

 

A bigger hand held puck with a decent screen could've been cool - looking like a google Nest, it could've kept the outer ring, been able to do all it does now but also browse and display artwork etc. and the display could've used a gyro so that it was always vertical regardless of how you pick up the device.

Not really a technical challenge!

 

Arrows for TV use, pause/play, same for stage etc. Little things like that even. 🙂

Do you guys remember this remote has been in prototypes for forever? We were discussing a remote that would notice how the hand would move. I guess they settled on making the remote wheel rotate instead of noticing movement in the halo. Imagine swiping to next channel with a whiff of your hand as you brush someone off or something.

Anyway. Still I am upset they didn’t even bother to implement support for beosystem 4 tv systems and the new speaker systems. I wouldn’t buy it now and expect those things to come but I hope B&O clarifies it for us.

Clarification?

Good luck with that.

Yeah they’d pulling back more and more....

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Mikipidia wrote:

Yeah they’d pulling back more and more....

New: Beovision Harmony, Beolab 50's, Beolab 18's, Beolab 17's, Beolab 3's, Beosound 9000 mk3, Beosound Stage & LG, Beosound 2, Beoplay M3, Beoplay A1, Beoplay H4 gen 2, Beoplay E8 3.0

Mikipedia on YouTube (finally )

https://www.youtube.com/c/Mikipedia

Old: Beovision Eclipse, Beolab 1's, Beolab 2, Beovision 10-46, Overture 2300, beolab 8000's, Beolab 4000's, Beovision avant 32" etc. etc.

Don’t normally post rants but what a load of bull that is.

Talk about control, any advertising done by dealers must add to the experience, brand and community.

What a load of rubbish, what’s next no YouTube channels allowed, no beoworld without consent,

Sounds like they are going down the YouTube route.

Anyway just my little 3.40am rant.

How very small mind and insular approach.

I still like it and am not confused about it, although like I said, it needs more. If nothing has changed in 3 months or so I’ll start thinking of joining the pitchfork brigade Stick out tongue

😁😁😁😁😁 love that!

Millemissen wrote:

Thanks for the look in your crystal bowl.

I guess we will have to come back on this in a years time....to see what has happened.

P.S. What kind of BeoSound system are you aiming at....a reaurrection of the oldies from yesteryear?

MM

There is a tv - and there is a BV.

Hi,

All l’am for, is Better BeoSound Moment or Better Music Player! How can you sell Speakers like Lab 90 or 50 with BeoSound Core as a Music Player! It has to be way something better than that!

Don't get me wrong, i love the idea of New Products, and that's what, we're all dearing for, but to come out with a Product half way done is not B&O! If Apple would've that, the Whole Hell would’ve broken!

More over, the whole of the Semicircle should’ve been the Screen! Let’s hope, they get things right!