Wait TuneIn isn't supported anymore? it seems to work on my A9 rev 2

There is such opportunity here! Halo could be a BeoTime at the bedside…! Cmon  B&O…

I think his point was that B&O Radio is on the new products, not Tunein.

Tunein remains on the older products.

Cant remember which one the Halo can control.

Severed_Hand_of_Skywalker wrote:

Wait TuneIn isn't supported anymore? it seems to work on my A9 rev 2

Sandyb wrote:

I think his point was that B&O Radio is on the new products, not Tunein.

Tunein remains on the older products.

Cant remember which one the Halo can control.

Severed_Hand_of_Skywalker wrote:

Wait TuneIn isn't supported anymore? it seems to work on my A9 rev 2

I do not understand why B&O is not using / supporting Roon?

Roon RAAT is much more open than Airplay and Chromecast. Within Roon B&O could use the existing API to offer a Halo with functionalities many are dreaming of. With full access to the audio content of the individual roon database. 

But focussing only on the big mulitroom platforms of Apple and Google, B&O is very much limited. And  Google and especially Apple will never realy support potenial competitors being more innovative.

On the other hand developing and maintaining a B&O own multiroom platform (like Beolink / Netlink) including the management of audio content (only radio is not enough), this train left the station long ago with e.g. Sonos but B&O missed it. I think that B&O has neither the money nor the software knowledge to close the gaap and offer competitive solution. Not like Masterlink were B&O were leading edge.

So the only possible way in my eyes for a small company like B&O is to partner with a medium size software company (like Roon) having similar interests, focusing on similar markets and not a company dominating the mass markets with no interest at all in niche player. 

Or the alternativ is to be one of the many other bluetooth / airplay / chromecast loudspeaker companies trying to differentiate by price. But having no more unique selling points left. B&O seems to prefer more a red than a blue ocean.

Alsfeld wrote:

I do not understand why B&O is not using / supporting Roon?

Roon RAAT is much more open than Airplay and Chromecast. Within Roon B&O could use the existing API to offer a Halo with functionalities many are dreaming of. With full access to the audio content of the individual roon database.

But focussing only on the big mulitroom platforms of Apple and Google, B&O is very much limited. And Google and especially Apple will never realy support potenial competitors being more innovative.

On the other hand developing and maintaining a B&O own multiroom platform (like Beolink / Netlink) including the management of audio content (only radio is not enough), this train left the station long ago with e.g. Sonos but B&O missed it. I think that B&O has neither the money nor the software knowledge to close the gaap and offer competitive solution. Not like Masterlink were B&O were leading edge.

So the only possible way in my eyes for a small company like B&O is to partner with a medium size software company (like Roon) having similar interests, focusing on similar markets and not a company dominating the mass markets with no interest at all in niche player.

Or the alternativ is to be one of the many other bluetooth / airplay / chromecast loudspeaker companies trying to differentiate by price. But having no more unique selling points left. B&O seems to prefer more a red than a blue ocean.

The Moment was proof that B&O has no Clue when it comes to software and is why I am so scared to buy a halo now with the "promise" that it will be more useful in the future. They couldn't even get the Moment to work with base features after 2 years of trying. 

Sandyb wrote:

Which is why I have cut out any B&O control from my music / radio listening - only the speakers remain.

Roon is my control interface - if I must use an iDevice, then at least Roon's interface and software work extremely well - and at times the Linn app(s) too, as I have a Linn streamer / DAC in my main room. The Linn app even shows me a lot of my podcast feeds from TuneIn!

Yes, Roon and a Linn streamer is expensive, but newsflash, so is B&O.

The Halo's design / form factor limits how useful I can ever get. The screen is too small for searching / browsing in the end. Which implies it was only ever going to be a volume control and starter for predefined experiences. Fine for those who are happy with just that. But with the Moment gone, they're telling you to use your phone / tablet for everything else. In which case, if I am generally constantly having to use my iPad for example, what use is a 700 pound / euro volume dial?

Before getting too carried away with B&O committing their future to Roon, I have just given my subscription up after three/four months of suffering from their software problems!

Now I am well aware that many will say Roon has been faultless for them and I had no issues whatsoever for well over six months, but when problems arise I can promise you that after superficial attempts to help, you really are on your own. 

Have a problem playing Tidal? Roon will say it must be Tidal and, of course,Tidal will blame Roon because on the stand alone Tidal app it plays perfectly. The standard Roon response to any complaint is to say 'it must be network problems' and leave you to it!

I don't intend to bore you further with tales of my weeks of wasted efforts and frustration apart from pointing out that if B&O was centrally involved in this alliance, and problems outside of their control occurred, I don't think they would get much credit for it here.

When Roon works it is good, very good but it has less than 100,00 subscribers ( Apple puts on more than this in two days) and you don't need to be a genius to see why there are question marks over its future. If one of the big music providers develops a similar platform to Roon charging only for music subscriptions not an annual fee . . .  Roon will lose many subscribers!

And don't start me off about Roon radio. Does Roon have any stations playing FLAC or Hi-Res files?

No.

But from my Lumin streamer/Dac I have a full range of radio stations playing FLAC files that stream directly to my B&O speakers.

Be careful what you wish for

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