Razlaw wrote:

No incredible light fixture. But large windows with the sun shining in and perhaps reflecting off of a granite table. Here are a couple pictures as you requested.

Thank you!!!  I have never seen an "integrated light fixture" like that.  (Oooh -- lights!-)  Very SleekChic!  Again thanks.

trackbeo wrote:

Thank you!!! I have never seen an "integrated light fixture" like that. (Oooh -- lights!-) Very SleekChic! Again thanks.

No problem. And thanks for the compliments!

Carolpa wrote:

Audio wrote:

I have a compatibility question regarding Beosound 35?

Is somebody able to test, if the new BeoRemote Halo is showing the meta-data (e.g. title name, album name) when streaming via Airplay to a Beosound 35?

(as expected) only "Airplay" is displayed on the Halo

Many thanks for the quick feedback.

Too bad!

I hoped the BeoRemote Halo could be alternative display for me, because the Besound 35 display does not show the Airplay meta-data.

mbolo01 wrote:

Talking about dependencies, B&O should start by fixing the App that cannot start without internet access while WiFi connected to the domestic network .... we would then be able to control and enjoy our products and services which don’t need internet to work, headsets included (I have an open case with them and a video showing it) BS Moment, BS Core, BG 4002, BC 4500, BS1, BL18, BL19, BL8000 + RCV1, A6, M5, M3, A1, P6 (tks Botty), H5, TR1

Agreed...though, and this is a question, are there other brands whose home audio gear can still work with home WiFi but no internet?

ngnear wrote:

It is out of B&O s control if a particular service disappears.

Gracenote hasn’t disappeared.

Spotify connect hasn’t disappeared.

B&O has simply chosen to remove those services from products that their customers had already bought and paid for.

Sandyb wrote:

are there other brands whose home audio gear can still work with home WiFi but no internet?

I think we are facing a stupid bug here more than a by design behavior.

The app starts when in Plane mode .... fortunately for travelers using a numbered expensive headset.

Hmm, not sure, but then I dont think I have your expertise in architecture

My guess is / was that the app when it starts up goes via the internet to look at what products are registered and gather some information there, and moves on down the chain from there.

Hence, no internet, the products that the app "remembers" cannot be verified because it cant go via the internet and confirm them.

So my guess is that the architecture has bit to do with this, though I'm sure a fix is possible.

There ends my wild and barely intuitive speculation!!

 

 

mbolo01 wrote:

Sandyb wrote:

 

are there other brands whose home audio gear can still work with home WiFi but no internet?

 

 

 

I think we are facing a stupid bug here more than a by design behavior.

 

 

The app starts when in Plane mode .... fortunately for travelers using a numbered expensive headset.

 

 

Audio wrote:

I hoped the BeoRemote Halo could be alternative display for me, because the Besound 35 display does not show the Airplay meta-data.

This is exactly as expected: the Halo is a (relatively) dumb controller, and the device has the smarts.  Similarly, consider the Halo's MyButtons, which the B&O video said about GVA versions (approx.) "are controlled by the product".  I believe long-press MyButton storing on a non-GVA version are similar: either done by *telling the product* to perform the store inside itself, or else to report back the current status data necessary to parse & perform the store inside the Halo.  This jibes with @[Somebody]'s assertion that the IP control is done by running a webserver inside the product and JSON messages to/from the product.  The Halo asks the product for its sources list.  The Halo asks the product what its now-playing status is.  The Halo doesn't know anything about the internal content of Airplay streams, or DLNA, or Deezer, or Spotify Connect.  For example, what happens (or doesn't, in most cases) when you reverse-arrow (left-swipe) to go back a track?  It just sends the command and the product does what it can/will.  Then the Halo merely displays whatever the product reports back as the current status.  I believe normalizing that protocol across all products, is why the Halo required new firmware versions for each.

Sandyb wrote:

Agreed...though, and this is a question, are there other brands whose home audio gear can still work with home WiFi but no internet?

Roon is an example.  It "pretends" to work without the Internet, but even if you are using no services and only a local library, it will stop working after a month of no-contact!

[Edit: But you asked about devices.  I fear this will be an ongoing battle: On the one side, we have the Apple "lock it down hard" ethos: You must verity that you are the owner of the account, the same account as each & every device you can talk to locally, and all must report with their code-signed, and recently re-authenticated, IDs.  How else can you guarantee that your August Smart Lock isn't going to open the front door when someone sneaks their own HomePod onto your network?  On the other side, we have the "but it's only entertainment" ethos: Any speaker within range should be able to tap-to-join.  If you allow it, any device within range should be able to play on any Bluetooth or Airplay speaker, and any remote can control any speaker in the house.  But because B&O supports Google Voice Assistant, they may have to veer into the lock-it-down camp.  There was a good reason for having separate Beoplay and BeoSetup Apps: to support this laissez-faire attitude toward entertainment, only adding & deleting devices deserved IDs & Internet access (except for streaming services of course).]

Sandyb wrote:

I dont think I have your expertise in architecture

I’m not an expert either 😁 ... but would you imagine Apple remote app not starting because it cannot check that the account used in your Apple TV is legitimate ? I don’t .... even if an Apple TV without internet access is less appealing, while it can still be used as an AirPlay receiver for your locally stored music or your favorite holidays pictures stored on your iPhone

Audio wrote:

Carolpa wrote:

Audio wrote:

I have a compatibility question regarding Beosound 35?

Is somebody able to test, if the new BeoRemote Halo is showing the meta-data (e.g. title name, album name) when streaming via Airplay to a Beosound 35?

(as expected) only "Airplay" is displayed on the Halo

Many thanks for the quick feedback.

Too bad!

I hoped the BeoRemote Halo could be alternative display for me, because the Besound 35 display does not show the Airplay meta-data.

Does this mean, that the BeoRemote Halo will show the Airplay metadata for all other compatible B&O device (e.g. Beoplay A9)?