Honestly to me the Beoport is end of life and they should actually stop selling it. I would have been very much surprised if they have any plans at all besides barebones maintenance.

For the Beosound 5 to be taken seriously as a high end digital player, it should not have the gaps. For a year 2000 device that was acceptable but now it's 2010 and the white elephant in the room doesn't have any gaps so why should that be acceptable for this high end product.

What makes me sad is, as a customer I shouldn't even have to ask for this. They should catch this in development and since they tell the customer what he wants they should have had this fixed day 1.

Yes maybe some are not bothered enough by this but for sure it's an imperfection.

Is BeoConnect changing anything to this issue? If using the WMP or Itunes library/playlists, if the media player is set to gapless playback, will the B&O device play gapless as well?🤔

Shocking! You spend all that money and I won't do simple things!   I thought EVERYBODY used iTunes these days?!  Gosh even my iPod Nano does gapless and even crossfades if required!  Truly shocking!

Chrisreunion wrote:

Is BeoConnect changing anything to this issue? If using the WMP or Itunes library/playlists, if the media player is set to gapless playback, will the B&O device play gapless as well?🤔

No BeoConnect doesn't change anything. 

And here we go again.... 

It is my understanding that the root issue is that Apple lossless is proprietary, and Apple gapless playback of AAC is proprietary.  BS5/BM5 is based on Windows technology so it does not have access to Apple's proprietary intellectual property... which Apple does not license to 3rd parties. 

The rare 3rd parties that do support these formats have reverse engineered the Apple technology which could make them open to lawsuits (as Apple does agressively defend its IP rights), or potentially sell products that will not work some day should Apple decide to change their lossless format.

I guess there is nothing to stop B&O from building their own AAC gapless playback, as this doesn't require reverse engineering of proprietary encoding formats, but I'd rather see them invest in useful features for which there are no workarounds.

You can use FLAC now, for gapless, lossless in addition to WMA.  I wouldn't hold my breath for Apple formats as Apple doesn't license these, and it appears B&O doesn't reverse engineer others IP...  Maybe you should cry to Apple for not supporting FLAC...  Not that they'd listen...

Stan

If it is so complicated for B&O to work with Apple, why not thinking the other way 'round??

Fit all BeoSounds with a USB input that can work as an Ipod dock, or fit a direct Ipod connector somewhere, and people will just connect their Ipod or Ipad to have gapless & ALAC playback capabilities, exactly like BS8 is doing..with metadata sent over Masterlink, as well as the sound. Since A.MEM source is now only available on BS3200 (soon being discontinued), people would activate the local Idevice source by pressing A.MEM, and everybody would be happy!🙂

Stan wrote:

You can use FLAC now, for gapless, lossless in addition to WMA.

I may have missed something here. Can you confirm that FLAC is now also supported for gapless playing by the BeoSound 5? There was talk about a software upgrade making this happen, but I didn't know it was out yet.

Related to BM5/BS5 software upgrades, but slightly off-topic: is it now possible to exclude individual tracks from the MOTS database? This is absolutely essential for people with a lot of classical music, where individual movements (or even arias) are stored as tracks.

When these deficiencies are sorted out, I may finally be in the market for a BM5/BS5!

psand wrote:

I may have missed something here. Can you confirm that FLAC is now also supported for gapless playing by the BeoSound 5? There was talk about a software upgrade making this happen, but I didn't know it was out yet.

Related to BM5/BS5 software upgrades, but slightly off-topic: is it now possible to exclude individual tracks from the MOTS database? This is absolutely essential for people with a lot of classical music, where individual movements (or even arias) are stored as tracks.

When these deficiencies are sorted out, I may finally be in the market for a BM5/BS5!

FLAC is supported.  Excluding tracks, albums and artists from MOTS is also supported.  These were features of the last major release which was released a few months ago (forget when exactly). 

I'm not 100% certain of FLAC being gapless - I assume it is because it is lossless.  However, I currently don't have any FLAC tracks that would demonstrate this.  Perhaps I'll covert some to FLAC and see.  Would hate to be passing along bad info...

Stan

Chrisreunion wrote:

If it is so complicated for B&O to work with Apple, why not thinking the other way 'round??

Fit all BeoSounds with a USB input that can work as an Ipod dock, or fit a direct Ipod connector somewhere, and people will just connect their Ipod or Ipad to have gapless & ALAC playback capabilities, exactly like BS8 is doing..with metadata sent over Masterlink, as well as the sound. Since A.MEM source is now only available on BS3200 (soon being discontinued), people would activate the local Idevice source by pressing A.MEM, and everybody would be happy!🙂

There is reason to believe they are working on something along these lines for the BS5, although I doubt it will be exactly what you suggest.  See this thread for more details:  /forum/beo5-and-beo6/new-software

Stan

Stan,

I get the sense that you, like me, really appreciate the BS5/BM5 and that you fully understand, use and are very happy with the functionality.

I also sense that you are somewhat frustrated by people on this forum who don't understand the functionality but spend a lot of time criticizing and explaining (wrongly) what it can't do.  

I also get the sense that you, like me, get frustrated when these same people continually blame B&O for either not partnering with Apple or not breaking Apple's copyrights. At the same time they never complain about Apple not using open standards, or at the very least licensing there technology to other companies who could be partners.

Anyway, we can always start the BS5 and let the MOTS take our frustrations away.

sjmcguckin wrote:

Stan,

I get the sense that you, like me, really appreciate the BS5/BM5 and that you fully understand, use and are very happy with the functionality.

I also sense that you are somewhat frustrated by people on this forum who don't understand the functionality but spend a lot of time criticizing and explaining (wrongly) what it can't do.  

I also get the sense that you, like me, get frustrated when these same people continually blame B&O for either not partnering with Apple or not breaking Apple's copyrights. At the same time they never complain about Apple not using open standards, or at the very least licensing there technology to other companies who could be partners.

Anyway, we can always start the BS5 and let the MOTS take our frustrations away.

Exactly! I totally agree.........

First I didn't want to comment on any remark in this thread; nothing new; nothing positive; almost self inflicted pain, because we don't follow "Apple".