From Christian, on the Discord channel

ChristianK — i dag kl. 08:38
Without having had a look in the crystal ball, I would say: probably not. Matter can potentially be the "saviour of simple automations", but deep product specific features (let's take the overlay functionality on Mozart as an example) will probably not be exposed via Matter.

To me, a good, local, open and preferably well documented API will win over Matter-compatibility any day. Don't read this as "Matter is baaaad!". I think it will make it much easier for "everyone" to do more stuff with their devices in general suing Matter, but if you like the nitty-griddy stuff like me, I don't think it's superior.

I wouldn't count on any of the Mozart devices as being able to act like a hub.

Your Apple TV (being pretty recent I think?) though will act as a hub for Matter enabled B&O devices.

 

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This could – at least theoretically – mean that, if you are not into the automation stuff….and just want to control e.g. Hue lights, this might be possible with the BROne/Halo using a Mozart product as the hub. No need for a BLI in that particular case anymore, then! Or am I expecting too much? MM

I suspect that you're partly true -- and that might be enough. The article in the link indicates the we could control devices with Matter with the Beoremote One favorite buttons. This would make it pretty simple to trigger light scenes. E.g., Bright, Relax, and TV Viewing scenes with Hue. Just a handful of scenes can be very useful and maybe enough for most people. However, I wouldn't expect to see the type of deep control that you can get with a BLI -- such as being able to control the light level of each lamp. I could be wrong. Maybe adding Matter support to the Theatre would give us a new sublist under List on the remote for Hue Lights" that would give us a list of all lamps and scenes.

I think that the Halo is a different matter. Forgive the pun. The extra menus on the Halo are all highly customizable and edited by the BLI. It seems that that level would need the deep control of the BLI.

Having done some more reading into Matter, it seems that alot is still unknown

What we do seem to know broadly, is that one will need

(a) Matter enabled devices (be they speakers, lights, blinds etc)

(b) A Matter controller - this sets up instructions/ automations, and can be purely software (app)

(c) A Thread border router - this is hardware, already exists in many routers, but also some devices like recent Apple TV 4K models, Amazon and Google blobs.

Can one avoid having a physical hub, given the above. It seems it is possible, emphasis on possible. The Thread border routing capability can be built into small smart home devices, of the manufacture does so (ie not just restricted to more bulky boxes like the ATV etc)

Of the 5 B&O devices that will gain Matter capability - according to the flatpanels article - I dont see any having Thread border capability, except perhaps the Theatre, with its network switch built in?  But if even the Theatre doesn't have that capability, then people will need some hardware that does (Apple TV's may solve that issue).

What we dont know (although Emilios quote from Christian gives some thoughts on) is whether, if you have set up automation scenarios within, lets say, Apple HomeKit as a Matter controller, the Halo / BR1 can access or trigger those.   He is perhaps hinting that simple commands can be passed through though.

 

 

The current LG TVs already provide the ability to control Hue lights and Ikea Tradfri lights and much more. Does anyone know how this has been implemented?

I just looked on the LG home screen and see Home Dashboard is "powered by ThinQ AI." I'm not really sure quite what that means. Perhaps it's connected with Home Kit?

Beojeff wrote:

I suspect that you’re partly true — and that might be enough. The article in the link indicates the we could control devices with Matter with the Beoremote One favorite buttons. This would make it pretty simple to trigger light scenes. E.g., Bright, Relax, and TV Viewing scenes with Hue. Just a handful of scenes can be very useful and maybe enough for most people. However, I wouldn’t expect to see the type of deep control that you can get with a BLI — such as being able to control the light level of each lamp. I could be wrong. Maybe adding Matter support to the Theatre would give us a new sublist under List on the remote for “Hue Lights” that would give us a list of all lamps and scenes.

Exactly what I would hope for - and all I would need. Maybe that would be enough for quite a few other B&O users too? MM

Yes, then it does sound like you will have a chance of simple triggering via the Theatre/BR1 of lights.  None of this sounds imminent, so I suspect more will become clearer to all of us on the next few months. Like you my automation requirements are minimal (in fact I have nothing right now), but I do have in mind some powered blinds, so it would be nice to trigger those without one or more additional hubs.