ɓʋɾɑɳɫɘɮ wrote:

After reading and then rereading the OP several times, especially the "replace them right away" part ... sounds frankly as though counterfeits have wiggled into the supply chain and this is all a big hush-hush!!!

An interesting thought, one certainly sees a ton of counterfeit A8 headphones on eBay and such. Perhaps one disadvantage of producing things in China is that someone inside will leak the major design drawings and such to counterfeiters. I've seen instances where the firms making DVDs of movies have had such intellectual property pilfering. 

I guess it's one of the many things you have to consider with any production location decision...

Jeff wrote:

one certainly sees a ton of counterfeit A8 headphones on eBay

Apparently

Stonk wrote:

bayerische wrote:

So the "mk2" would be more cheaply made then?

Looks like it!

It does appear that they launch a product, then find a cheaper way to produce it at a later date.

certainly is a tried & true (and accepted) practice of Apple ... iPhone 3 -> 3GS, 4 -> 3S, 5-> ? + ??

but the Apple quality does not decline - just more internal efficiencies (or so it seems)

However I can't believe that B&O would be silly to compromise the external finnish which is such a strong part of the brand

I "like" 🙁 the theory of lookalikes slipping into the supply chain ... makes one hopping mad to think of the additional expense B&O may now have - at a time when they can ill afford that ! 

Elephant, I agree with you on the Apple thing, however...

You took the iPhone as an example, yes the iPhone1 was a marvelous device, and so beautiful, the 2 and 3's where horrible. But from iPhone 4 the quality of the design and materials used once again got better. I like the 5'er, but it does scratch very easily. On the other hand it's great to have the antennae problems gone, and no back-glass, which was just another piece of glass that needed replacement if you dropped it. 🤒

beoshit 12 is shitty, MK2 its like buying a hoax product from the dealer. I will get the Loewe 2 go protable speakers. if i can sell the beolit but nobody wants to buy it from ebay.it sucks

Seriously, it's this bad?

Is the mk2 currently at dealers shelves? I haven't played with the product since in Struer last year, at the B&O headquarter store, it felt nice and massive then. 

I personally like my Lit12,though I also had my first one replaced due to the battery not charching anymore.I admit that the wireless connection is some sort of a weak spot though...otherwise its a fine  product with superb sound IMHO

Regards

Jens

Oh dear Flappo. After the amount of times you have posted I would have though you knew about this product.

BeoLit is a portable speaker with no other function (No radio music etc..). The cool thing is that you can stream music to BeoLit 12 wirelessly from the iPhone and enjoy 120W+ of amplification. The speaker really is a powerfull speaker built into a very small box. It looks cool, it feels cool, and yes, you look cool with one of them.

Come on, buy a BeoLit 12 and share your music with your friends. You won't regret it!

Just put an Apply logo on a concrete block, he'll buy it and never complain that it doesn't work. 😎

Is somebody suggesting an official cost-reduced rework of the Beolit or counterfeits getting into the system? There are reconditioned ones being offered on the online store. Obviously reworked returned units.