Is there no lipstick available for changing colour? 🤔

you dont need a lipstick

if you find the black dot in white version not so good b&o will offer a button to you , to attach it !!

I still fail to see the attraction that ICE amplification seems to be responsible for. It is great for bass power as the amplifier can be smaller and the heat sinks not so prominent, but for the top and midrange, I cannot see any real advantage except economy of production. Experience so far reveals, to me at least, that ICE power does not guarantee better sound. the other speaker to have been so transformed is the Beolab 4000 - interestingly not called the 4002 - I wonder if they will reconsider - and I would venture that this is simply not quite as good as the earlier Class AB model. I would possibly be more excited by the fitting of an ALT in the speakers - possible I would have thought with the column designs, but this would have necessitated a rather more radical change to the internal structure of the speakers.

I welcome the first A/B trial!

Doctor wrote:

I still fail to see the attraction that ICE amplification seems to be responsible for. It is great for bass power as the amplifier can be smaller and the heat sinks not so prominent, but for the top and midrange, I cannot see any real advantage except economy of production. Experience so far reveals, to me at least, that ICE power does not guarantee better sound. the other speaker to have been so transformed is the Beolab 4000 - interestingly not called the 4002 - I wonder if they will reconsider - and I would venture that this is simply not quite as good as the earlier Class AB model. I would possibly be more excited by the fitting of an ALT in the speakers - possible I would have thought with the column designs, but this would have necessitated a rather more radical change to the internal structure of the speakers.

I welcome the first A/B trial!

It is interesting that B&O have made no attempt to claim even a small peformance benefit from the change - in which case all we can expect is that they are the same, at best.

I too look forward to th first (hopefully blind) A/B test.

Well we all know how the "new" beolab 4000's with ICE turned out... They certainly weren't an improvement. BOO B&O. I have no reason to buy new beolabs from new.

I wouldn't wish to denigrate them without listening - I suppose I am just a bit sceptical especially as B&O are not claiming any sound improvements. The good news is that the price is not going up! 🙂

Doctor wrote:

I wouldn't wish to denigrate them without listening - I suppose I am just a bit sceptical especially as B&O are not claiming any sound improvements. The good news is that the price is not going up! 🙂

Agree, as they also mention new drivers. All I ask is an unbiased review, one way or the other.

It is interesting that the bass response is lowered to 48hz instead of 52 for the older version, mk2.  Question is, is this difference going to be spectacularly audible?  I guess dealers aren't going to have both sets (BL8000 mk2 and BL8002)to switch between to audition.

JontyL wrote:

It is interesting that the bass response is lowered to 48hz instead of 52 for the older version, mk2.  Question is, is this difference going to be spectacularly audible?  I guess dealers aren't going to have both sets (BL8000 mk2 and BL8002)to switch between to audition.

Don't worry to much about the quoted numbers - they don't mention how many dB they are down at the particular frequency and so are meaningless.

Puncher wrote:

JontyL wrote:

It is interesting that the bass response is lowered to 48hz instead of 52 for the older version, mk2.  Question is, is this difference going to be spectacularly audible?  I guess dealers aren't going to have both sets (BL8000 mk2 and BL8002)to switch between to audition.

 

Don't worry to much about the quoted numbers - they don't mention how many dB they are down at the particular frequency and so are meaningless.

-10dB down on the 8002, so a rather pointless measurement. Specifications always have been rather meaningless when it comes to hifi speakers and studio monitors!