Millemissen wrote:

Where are your rears located, and where did you place the (pseudo)rears?

See /forum/general-discussion-and-questions/recommendations-for-any-good-surround-sound-movie-trailers#post-2018523

All of this investigation was to test the BL4s in surround sound mode (see the BL14 versus BL4 thread).

So in testing Ice Age 3 I tried a range of [SPEAKER] settings, including the second pair of BL4s daisy-chained from the BL11 and positioned the speakers as follows (I am centre of the clock dial and looking to the BV8 at 12 o'clock):

12 o'clock = BV8 centre speaker & BL11

11 & 1 o'clocks = BL3

10 & 2 o'clocks = daisy chained BL4s ie a subset of the sound as routed and filtered through the BL11

7 & 5 o'clocks = BL4s

Surprisingly this pseudo 7.1 setup was actually an enriching experience,

and running in pseudo 6.1 mode was good too !

At 56 seconds into the trailer some ice falls off the eyes of the squirrel ... and the sound of the tinkling ice is clear and is relocated in 6.1 mode !

I then got stuck into testing "Gravity"'s trailer .... depending upon how tomorrow shapes up I may redeploy this lot and test against "The Hobbit" the desolation of Smaug"

Means: they aren't (extra)'rears', but 'high's' - pseudo, of course.

MM

Millemissen wrote:

Means: they aren't (extra)'rears', but 'high's' - pseudo, of course.

MM

There is a tv - and there is a BV.

Maybe you should secure a patent for that setup 😎

MM

Beolab 4 is plastical crap **** :).. It was designed to use with your PC or for some sound in the kitchen or bedroom... NOT to use it with an 4.1 or 5.1 setup..

I know you like the Beolab 14 ... but what did you think of a pair Beolab 4000 MK2 as front... Beolab 6000 MK2 as rear and a Beolab 11 as sub ? I think that's sound much better ;) 

Yes it's quite expensive but a much better combination I think... and a Beolab 2 is too heavy... That is only good to use with 8000's or Beolab 1's... 

Millemissen wrote:

Maybe you should secure a patent for that setup 😎

Perhaps I should !

Anyway I did a whole range of tests: 4 x BL4 and 2 x BL3 + 2 x BL4

No surprise 🙂

The best combination was  2 x BL3 + 2 x BL4 because the BL3s were great for music,  however the 4 x BL4s were pretty good as just surround sound speakers - backed up by the Bl11 sub-woofer.

Ok!

When i was in our Collins Street store today, I finally got to demo the BL14's.  They actually blew me away that they sounded that good.

I have the BL4's which I do love, but the BL14's were more powerful and richer and all round better.

I demoed stereo as L and R and surround sound via a movie trailer.  They were just awesome. 

Well I have gone ahead and purchased the BL14 (2.1) from the very helpful and very efficient B&O store in Sheffield. Thank you Nick - your patient advice appreciated! A superb price too.

I am going to set up the speakers this weekend and can't wait to hear the difference, particularly when it comes to playing music. I will hopefully add a couple of rear satellites at a later date when funds allow it.

From a purely visual perspective, the subwoofer is much bigger than I had anticipated. But I like it a lot. It is hard to know how to describe it. A stylish bollard?! Not sure that description really works!

Thanks for all your advice folks. This is a great forum for gaining advice and inspiration.

C 

Good decision, enjoy it!