Beolab 28

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Hi M,

I went this afternoon for a "look see" and to check out if there was going to be conflict using the BL 28 as the front speakers in a 5.1 set up.

The 28's have their own room "adjustment" system built in and I was very concerned that would clash with the 5.1 Odyssee system provided by my Marantz AVR.

I saw and played around with the BL 28 app and saw that you can turn the room adjustment off which would mean that the Marantz would be providing the guidance.

Now the only thing I need to figure out is the issue of the subwoofer. I am currently using BL 18 and Bl 19 and the Odyssee room adaption creates the crossover for all speakers below a certain frequency to the subwoofer.

I am trying to figure out what will happen in a world where there is no separate subwoofer as the BL 28's certainly provide more than enough bass. 

Just a nit picky comment...

Initially, the marketing collateral indicated BL28 had the acoustic lens technology (ALT). I was examining the speaker, trying to find where the lens was hidden! I was confused. It’s a pretty obvious physical component... but it was nowhere in sight.

They’ve revised their website and collateral now—no ALT. 

Yes, I kept wondering where the ALT fit in based on that description, but having heard them the high range is quite impressive even without. 

Millemissen wrote:

Current Stage/Contour is not built on the Mozart platform.

I doubt that that will take 18 months.

Maybe when a Contour 55 will come - that would be perfect timing.

MM

There is a tv - and there is a BV.

I really hope B&O would release info about this feature. If mozart allows to be a surround processor (stage / contour / etc) and allow mozart speakers to be satellites, this would be quite a massive new feature.

I’ll eventually buy a contour and a harmony. But i’m waiting for some news on what mozart will bring. I don’t want to make such investment and a few months later the whole audio architecture moves to the next generation. I don’t mind smaller changes (adding / removing radio, deezer, dlna), but i don’t want my audio system to be so outdated.

If mozart indeed allows to build a surround speakers with mozart speakers, this would be quite a game changer and innovative. it currently only be done via wisa (requiring wisa compatible speakers) or via sonos (in an all sonos setup). mozart would basically bring b&o at the same technology level as sonos, which would be huge…
steve1977 wrote:

I really hope B&O would release info about this feature. If mozart allows to be a surround processor (stage / contour / etc) and allow mozart speakers to be satellites, this would be quite a massive new feature.

I’ll eventually buy a contour and a harmony. But i’m waiting for some news on what mozart will bring. I don’t want to make such investment and a few months later the whole audio architecture moves to the next generation. I don’t mind smaller changes (adding / removing radio, deezer, dlna), but i don’t want my audio system to be so outdated.

If mozart indeed allows to build a surround speakers with mozart speakers, this would be quite a game changer and innovative. it currently only be done via wisa (requiring wisa compatible speakers) or via sonos (in an all sonos setup). mozart would basically bring b&o at the same technology level as sonos, which would be huge…

You won’t get any announcement in advance of implementation

Was there any pre announcement of Mozart? No

Was there any clarification in advance of the Balance of the changes that Mozart would bring to even a one point speaker?

In addition, I’ve been told that the surround function will be closer to 18 months away.

To those who recoil at such a long timeframe, remember it will be closer to 2 years from the Balance release by the time the much promised NL is added back.

Agreed that Mozart surround is a big positive, but I’d adjust any expectations accordingly

Glad to see Spotify Connect, and I do not care about lack of Deezer.

But missing Beolink Multiroom and Touch to Join 😩

 

BeoJosh wrote:

I hope Deezer (and potentially Tidal and/or Roon) integration will come to BL28, and other Mozart products when the software is updated later this year, as I prefer playing music on my speakers through Deezer Hifi. Of course, I’m the only one in the family who does so—my wife and kids use AP.

FWIW, I am ordering a pair of 28s in anthracite. They will be connected through a Harmony, so I’ll be able to use Deezer that way. I’d considered doing bespoke, but decided I didn’t want to wait or pay extra. They should be delivered/installed in late June/early July along with a pair of 50s I have on order. Looking forward to them!

Concrats to you! Share a picture when all is installed please. Did you order the brass 50’s?

steve1977 wrote:
Millemissen wrote:

 

Current Stage/Contour is not built on the Mozart platform.

 

I doubt that that will take 18 months.

 

Maybe when a Contour 55 will come - that would be perfect timing.

 

MM

 

There is a tv - and there is a BV.

 

 

 

I really hope B&O would release info about this feature. If mozart allows to be a surround processor (stage / contour / etc) and allow mozart speakers to be satellites, this would be quite a massive new feature.

 

 

I’ll eventually buy a contour and a harmony. But i’m waiting for some news on what mozart will bring. I don’t want to make such investment and a few months later the whole audio architecture moves to the next generation. I don’t mind smaller changes (adding / removing radio, deezer, dlna), but i don’t want my audio system to be so outdated.

 

 

If mozart indeed allows to build a surround speakers with mozart speakers, this would be quite a game changer and innovative. it currently only be done via wisa (requiring wisa compatible speakers) or via sonos (in an all sonos setup). mozart would basically bring b&o at the same technology level as sonos, which would be huge…

Hard to say how long you will have to wait - and honestly we have no precise information about what is going to happen or when.

All I say is, that I see the options/possibilities with the Mozart platform.

(Obviously I am a bit more optimistic than e.g. Sandyb).

I am not sure, that you should wait with a purchase (depending on what you currently have).

Maybe you should just enjoy a Contour as it is now - I am sure that you can sell that for a good price in a year or two or.........

 

MM

Location: Flensborg————Danmark

Millemissen wrote:

Hard to say how long you will have to wait - and honestly we have no precise information about what is going to happen or when.

All I say is, that I see the options/possibilities with the Mozart platform.

(Obviously I am a bit more optimistic than e.g. Sandyb).

I am not sure, that you should wait with a purchase (depending on what you currently have).

Maybe you should just enjoy a Contour as it is now - I am sure that you can sell that for a good price in a year or two or.........

MM

There is a tv - and there is a BV.

I could indeed probably buy & sell a contour. or even could buy a horizon, which is rather cheap second hand and not too bad either. But that’s the part where i have less need for change. I’m quite tempted to pull the trigger faster with the harmony for the living room though.

But i’d really hate to see if i spend such an amount and will be limited to wisa speakers for wireless connection, while a horizon mk2 may support to connect all mozart speakers wireless.

I’m thinking to keep the harmony for 10+ years, but eventually switch or upgrade speakers.

If mozart indeed gets “sonos equivalent” surround capabilities, this would probably the biggest software innovation b&o innovation has ever done. And as big of a step as going from ml to nl.
steve1977 wrote:

I could indeed probably buy & sell a contour. or even could buy a horizon, which is rather cheap second hand and not too bad either. But that’s the part where i have less need for change. I’m quite tempted to pull the trigger faster with the harmony for the living room though.

But i’d really hate to see if i spend such an amount and will be limited to wisa speakers for wireless connection, while a horizon mk2 may support to connect all mozart speakers wireless.

I’m thinking to keep the harmony for 10+ years, but eventually switch or upgrade speakers.

If mozart indeed gets “sonos equivalent” surround capabilities, this would probably the biggest software innovation b&o innovation has ever done. And as big of a step as going from ml to nl.

But with a Harmony and wisa beolabs you have the best setup imaginable, even when the Mozart platform proofs to do surround speakers with other single point speakers. You can stream everything to your Harmony. Personally I would always like to use a BV as main music / surround source to drive my BL’s. The way you can tweak al kinds of settings is unparalleled and I do not think this can be done with Mozart platform (or it should be for future beovisions driven by Mozart OS).

So I see a Harmony as a more clever investment then the Contour, even further into the future. Especially because the Harmony can swap panels in future.
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