vlohjr1 wrote:

I was thinking more that in a normal house I don’t see that much benefit with a conventional 5.1. I was hoping that with the 28 I would get a decent virtual surround plus good listening music sound

I would not want to be without my (two) 5.1 B&O setups - and I certainly don’t live  in an ‘unnormal house’.

If you don’t need it, that is fine - it is however a fact that you won’t get ‘a decent virtual surround’ from the 28’s....in fact you won’t get anything but 2 channel stereo (which is absolutely fine).

If you want something ‘smallish’ for ‘virtual surround’, you need the Stage - but then again maybe that is not enough for your music listening.

A 5.1 setup in a ‘normal house’ does not need to be a huge setup - and can be the perfect combination for 2 channel and multichannel/surround listening.

MM

Millemissen wrote:

and I certainly don’t live  in an ‘unnormal house’.

👍My house/home is normal, but my 2 multichannel setups aren't😁👍

Every BV deserves a multichannel setup ;-))

MM

Millemissen wrote:

Every BV deserves a multichannel setup ;-))

MM

There is a tv - and there is a BV.

I was just trying to justify upgrading 2xbl to the 28😁

Sandyb wrote:

Network Link (or Speaker Link as it is to be called) will be first, and thats seemingly slipping towards the end of this year.

Do you know more about this? Looking at the choice of words there will be no integrated streaming service (Deezer) but just a Join/multiroom experience? Moving away from selecting your music through a B&O interface. Very curious how this will play with the BLI/BLGW.

I dont really I'm afraid.

It seems to me that native streaming from B&O products has gone, B&O Radio aside.

From what I understand Tidal and Roon have been in touch with B&O asking about inclusion - though whether that goes anywhere, who knows. If that ends up anywhere, I suspect it will be Tidal Connect for example, rather than native integrated Tidal. 

And as you suggest, this does suggest that B&O app as interface has been relegated. We've discussed this many times before - a decision was made well over two years ago to prioritise AP and CC as primary controls i.e whichever streaming app you use.  In light of this, no surprise that native streaming has gone.

I dont expect it to return, but it does raise a question about all the value added that we gained in the past from very B&O'esque controls like the Essence remotes, simple tap to join gestures etc etc.  

If experiences are always started from a mobile device 3rd party streaming app, what really can an Essence remote, BR One, Halo do to start something from scratch.  I have no idea really - and this seems the disconnect which many are struggling to reconcile.

I hope something is possible - even my Linn streamer unit and remote has 6 my buttons which can trigger Qobuz (or Tidal) playlists, albums, radio stations, songs etc......so something is clearly possible in concert with music services.

Its just a question of whether B&O is willing and able to go there.

I also just so think the BLI / GW is any sort of priority for them now - they'll rely on Khimo to fill the gap, and provide skills that can tie together streaming stuff with B&O products.

 

 

 

1990 wrote:

Sandyb wrote:

Network Link (or Speaker Link as it is to be called) will be first, and thats seemingly slipping towards the end of this year.

Do you know more about this? Looking at the choice of words there will be no integrated streaming service (Deezer) but just a Join/multiroom experience? Moving away from selecting your music through a B&O interface. Very curious how this will play with the BLI/BLGW.

 

I hope Deezer (and potentially Tidal and/or Roon) integration will come to BL28, and other Mozart products when the software is updated later this year, as I prefer playing music on my speakers through Deezer Hifi. Of course, I’m the only one in the family who does so—my wife and kids use AP.

FWIW, I am ordering a pair of 28s in anthracite. They will be connected through a Harmony, so I’ll be able to use Deezer that way. I’d considered doing bespoke, but decided I didn’t want to wait or pay extra. They should be delivered/installed in late June/early July along with a pair of 50s I have on order. Looking forward to them!

well that'll be some mighty setup!

I wouldn't expect any progress or clarity (on whether services get integrated back in) for quite a while.

I can see nothing that dealers have indicated to forum members which would suggest Deezer or anything else is going to be re-integrated.

 

BeoJosh wrote:

I hope Deezer (and potentially Tidal and/or Roon) integration will come to BL28, and other Mozart products when the software is updated later this year, as I prefer playing music on my speakers through Deezer Hifi. Of course, I’m the only one in the family who does so—my wife and kids use AP.

FWIW, I am ordering a pair of 28s in anthracite. They will be connected through a Harmony, so I’ll be able to use Deezer that way. I’d considered doing bespoke, but decided I didn’t want to wait or pay extra. They should be delivered/installed in late June/early July along with a pair of 50s I have on order. Looking forward to them!

 

I went to see the BL28 today and I was very impressed.

Both from the sound perspective as well as the features and the B&O touch with design and the “curtains”.

My next music system will most likely be a pair of BLs.

And with the Mozart speakers I now feel that we (finally) have a clear direction that B&O has taken. Earlier years we have seen various different connectivities much to my own frustration.

I would also prefer that B&O could offer multiple services but I have no idea of the possibility nor the license implications.

And we got a good explanation from Mr Andersen why Spotify is not embedded in the App.

I really like their current offerings. Best in many years.

Even my son (18 years) really likes the TVs, speakers (as well as the Shape) and especially the headsets. He is looking foreword to try the new Portal. Like me when I was 18 in the good old Lewis days.

I am looking forward to see more existing products from B&O. Especially now.

Hopefully a soundbar that will also support external speakers will come. Based on Mozart of course.

Hi M,

I went this afternoon for a "look see" and to check out if there was going to be conflict using the BL 28 as the front speakers in a 5.1 set up.

The 28's have their own room "adjustment" system built in and I was very concerned that would clash with the 5.1 Odyssee system provided by my Marantz AVR.

I saw and played around with the BL 28 app and saw that you can turn the room adjustment off which would mean that the Marantz would be providing the guidance.

Now the only thing I need to figure out is the issue of the subwoofer. I am currently using BL 18 and Bl 19 and the Odyssee room adaption creates the crossover for all speakers below a certain frequency to the subwoofer.

I am trying to figure out what will happen in a world where there is no separate subwoofer as the BL 28's certainly provide more than enough bass.