Remember that in Europe, the prices are given with taxes... 25% in the case of Denmark.

Duels wrote:

VANTAGE wrote:

 

I read earlier a price of around DKK 90k for the BL28 (to be confirmed of course). A pair of BL20 currently retails at DKK 74k.

 

 

That’s less than I expected. How interesting!

 

 

As my old boss would have said “you can’t even buy a decent bottle of wine for that price” 😕

I want to have a drink with your boss... and you of course :-) 

Aussie Michael wrote:

I want to have a drink with your boss... and you of course :-)

Curly wrote:

My dealer said ~$15,000USD, so probably a bit more, then.

Ouch.

Admittedly however as far as aesthetics go I'm starting to warm up to these speakers; but I still struggle with some design decisions and the price certainly isn't helping especially when comparing them against the Beolab 20's.

It doesn't matter how anyone wants to spin this but physics are physics and you'll only be able to push so much air with 6.5" woofers. You just absolutely cannot overcome and compensate for this and anyone who as ever heard the oomph from 14" or larger subwoofers will know exactly what I'm on about. There's a huge difference between 20Hz level with the rest of the frequency response versus say 50 or 60Hz that's been exaggerated in attempt to overcome the laws of physics; and yes some of my music does go that low.

Much like many of you though I prefer a 2.0 system without a subwoofer and I was sitting on the thought of buying a pair of Beolab 20's as a compromise for a very long time; I simply couldn't ever for the life of me decide whether or not I could live with the way they look, and if I'm going to sacrifice aesthetics there's a long list of active studio monitors with gargantuan woofers for me to choose from.

I was originally hoping that we'd see a more direct replacement to the Beolab 20's with the 28's but my gut kept telling me that the 28's in all likelihood would be more of an upgraded 18 than an upgraded 20 (the name was kinda a giveaway in my opinion, haha).

Ultimately my love for B&O primarily comes from my appreciation of the brand's design language and just how much it compliments my tastes and style, but I am first and foremost a music lover and acoustics will always come first. There will no doubt be many of you who will buy this speaker and enjoy it, and I can fully respect that.

As a final note I do very much like the direction B&O is going forward with their new audio platform though, especially with respect to how the 28's will presumably no longer require a Core or more annoyingly the Transmitter-1; this is definitely a huge step forward for those of us who do not own a BeoVision and would still very much like to conveniently enjoy B&O's audio products. Way back when I was procrastinating getting a pair of 18's along with a 19 I always found it rather ridiculous how the Core both didn't have WiSA and more importantly the subwoofer bass management functionality of a BeoVision or the Transmitter-1 and equipment clutter -- even when out of view -- isn't my cup of tea.

My dream has always been the 50's though, but that's way out of my budget. Maybe in 5 to 10 years from now!

the combination of 18s and 19 for music was always unsatisfactory for me (as a stereo purist admittedly).

B&O have a long way to go in upping the streaming capability / flexibility of their speakers.  I do like that you can stream directly to the 28s - thats a highly welcome step forward.  But remember that there are increasing numbers of active streaming (stereo) speakers now - and a good number of them include AP2 / CC / Roon readiness etc.

This platform agnostic out of the box capability has become much more the norm in recent years - there is nothing to celebrate in B&O doing the same. They just need to get on with the platform migration, make it clear what streaming protocols are supported, and how their own remote controls will interact with Mozart (and older) stuff, and also what BLI automation / integration will be possible going forward.

f

BeoAnna wrote:

Curly wrote:

My dealer said ~$15,000USD, so probably a bit more, then.

Ouch.

Admittedly however as far as aesthetics go I'm starting to warm up to these speakers; but I still struggle with some design decisions and the price certainly isn't helping especially when comparing them against the Beolab 20's.

It doesn't matter how anyone wants to spin this but physics are physics and you'll only be able to push so much air with 6.5" woofers. You just absolutely cannot overcome and compensate for this and anyone who as ever heard the oomph from 14" or larger subwoofers will know exactly what I'm on about. There's a huge difference between 20Hz level with the rest of the frequency response versus say 50 or 60Hz that's been exaggerated in attempt to overcome the laws of physics; and yes some of my music does go that low.

Much like many of you though I prefer a 2.0 system without a subwoofer and I was sitting on the thought of buying a pair of Beolab 20's as a compromise for a very long time; I simply couldn't ever for the life of me decide whether or not I could live with the way they look, and if I'm going to sacrifice aesthetics there's a long list of active studio monitors with gargantuan woofers for me to choose from.

I was originally hoping that we'd see a more direct replacement to the Beolab 20's with the 28's but my gut kept telling me that the 28's in all likelihood would be more of an upgraded 18 than an upgraded 20 (the name was kinda a giveaway in my opinion, haha).

Ultimately my love for B&O primarily comes from my appreciation of the brand's design language and just how much it compliments my tastes and style, but I am first and foremost a music lover and acoustics will always come first. There will no doubt be many of you who will buy this speaker and enjoy it, and I can fully respect that.

As a final note I do very much like the direction B&O is going forward with their new audio platform though, especially with respect to how the 28's will presumably no longer require a Core or more annoyingly the Transmitter-1; this is definitely a huge step forward for those of us who do not own a BeoVision and would still very much like to conveniently enjoy B&O's audio products. Way back when I was procrastinating getting a pair of 18's along with a 19 I always found it rather ridiculous how the Core both didn't have WiSA and more importantly the subwoofer bass management functionality of a BeoVision or the Transmitter-1 and equipment clutter -- even when out of view -- isn't my cup of tea.

My dream has always been the 50's though, but that's way out of my budget. Maybe in 5 to 10 years from now!

 

I love what Anna said. 
+1 

Amazing....all these opinions on a speaker that hardly anyone has heard or seen (in real life) and that is not launched yet.

MM

Millemissen wrote:

Amazing....all these opinions on a speaker that hardly anyone has heard or seen (in real life) and that is not launched yet.

MM

There is a tv - and there is a BV.

I did not expect you to agree.

Forgive me for being a bit more rational.

However, once I have experienced it a couple of times I’ll post my ‘impressions’ as well., you bet.

MM