Hello forum

I would like to make a 7.1.4 home cinema installation, with a Beovision Avant 14, using the processor of the Avant with 6 Beolab 18, and 4 Celestial ceiling speakers (BCO).

I spoke with my reseller who told me that would be very difficult to achieve, B&O is not planning to update their processor for dolby atmos.

Having an external receiver would partially make it, but the center speaker of the television could not be driven by the receiver. 

An receiver only for the ceiling speakers could/would create a delay or be difficult for volume adjusting.

Has anyone got an idea how to do it?

I now have 4 holes in the ceiling and plastering ist partially done ..

Thanks

Felipe

You - for sure - won't be able to use a BV14 for Atmos.

Neither alone or in 'combination' with any external receiver.

The nature of Atmos is that it must be delievered as a bitstream to a decoder that also controls the (entire) speaker setup.

Of course you can hope that there will be an Atmos solution from B&O sometime, but an update for the BV14 will not be possible.

However, the BV14 has a very capable audio engine, that is capable of handling up to 21 channels.

Part of this is the TrueImage upmixer - you can read a lot more about this here:

Hello MM,

thank you very much for your reply.

I understand now better why it could not work as i was hoping it would...

I read the User Guide of Trueimage, and have now a better idea how the speakers were tested and the algortihm made.

Since i will go for a 7.1 wired connection of the speakers, the 4 PL ports of the BV14 are taken. The additional speakers will have to be wireless.

I would like to have the ceiling speakers integrated in the ceiling.

So option 1 is to place active B&O speakers in the ceiling (maybe the BL17, with a frame below to access the speaker).

Option 2 would be a receiver/amplifier (WISA) that would drive passivly ceiling speakers. Is there such a receiver/amplifier?

Thanks,

felipe

You'd need a couple of (WiSA) Receiver 1's and either a couple of the old MCL2P/BeoLink Passive amp or the new BeoAmp 2 to drive the passive speakers in the ceiling...

....if really all physical PL ports are occupied.

MM

You'd need a couple of (WiSA) Receiver 1's and either a couple of the old MCL2P/BeoLink Passive amp or the new BeoAmp 2 to drive the passive speakers in the ceiling...

....if really all physical PL ports are occupied (?)

You can connect up to 8 wired BL's and you have the centerchannel build-in = 9 channels on the BV14.

If you pick the wireless subwoofer/BL19, you would only need one Receiver 1 for one of the ceiling speakers - the other set/the amp could be wired.

MM

With the BV 14, i have 4 PL ports, planned to be connected like this:

PL1: FL/FR, PL2: Subwoofer (wired), PL3: SRL/SRR, PL4: SBL/SBR

If i use the Subwoofer wireless, 1 PL is free for 2 ceiling speakers, but wiring now for 1 set from the tv is complicated...

So the easiest solution, (and still using the cutted out holes for the Celestial BOC82) would be:

 - 1x BeoLab Receiver 1 (1514)   ->  BeoAmp 2  ->  Celestial Left / Right Surround Height (Trueimage upmix)

 - 1x BeoLab Receiver 1 (1514)   ->  BeoAmp 2  ->  Celestial Left / Right Front Height        (Trueimage upmix)

Is this the way to do it?

felipeBet wrote:

So the easiest solution, (and still using the cutted out holes for the Celestial BOC82) would be:

 - 1x BeoLab Receiver 1 (1514)   ->  BeoAmp 2  ->  Celestial Left / Right Surround Height (Trueimage upmix)

 - 1x BeoLab Receiver 1 (1514)   ->  BeoAmp 2  ->  Celestial Left / Right Front Height        (Trueimage upmix)

 

Is this the way to do it?

That is what I would suggest.

If you involve your dealer/installer, be sure to talk this over with him.

P.S. You must also consider where to place the Receiver 1's and the amps - do remember, that they need power.

MM

Thanks a lot,

i will forward to my installer.

Have a nice day,

felipe

Hello MM,

after researching a bit more about the BeoLab Receiver1, i found out that i need 1 receiver/channel, that means 4 Receiver1 for the 4 ceiling speakers.

Before trying to find out where to hide them in the living room, maybe i could use the 2 speaker ports of the Momentum (in the living room), and link these ports to the Beovision Avant and configure these as surround speakers? Or how does the momentum link to the TV?

Thanks,

felipe

Sorry felipe - you are right about the 4 Receivers...of course.

The PL-ports of the Moment(um) are always in a R/L stereo configurations for the sound coming from the Moment to the speakers

This won't work!

Linking to/integrating with just means that the sources of the BS Moment can be used on the tv/the speakers of the tv can be used instead of  connecting speakers directly to the Moment. And that you can start the playback from the Jukebox.

I reread your initial post and realized that you are using/want to use BL18's.

Why not connect these wirelessly???

In that case you would have enough physical PL-ports for fonnecting the 2 BeoAmp2's, that you would need for the ceiling speakers.

MM