Frank,

Well, I guess someone at B&O missed that one, but as the STB_DSB-H670N file for the PUC exists and contains the data in a DEC formated file, it can be converted to a Beo5 XML file quite quickly.

Keith Saunders:

Many remotes send the command string several times even when it is not a long press. For example the Sony remotes always send the command five times by default with at least a 33,000 microsecond gap between transmission of each burst and needs to receive at least two correctly to accept the command.

To create a repeat they use what is called a toggle bit, the toggling of this one bit defines if it is the same code being repeated or a new code is being transmitted. This toggle bit is fairly standard and is included in the new Philips RC6 protocol.

I did analyse the Apple Remote signal, and it does not repeat the same signal, but after a little while when you keep a key pressed it sends a 'Repeat' signal... repeatedly (!). The Repeat signal is the same whatever the original key that was pressed. So if you could catch that repeat signal and put it in the file, it would be useful. For example I could map GO to PlayPause, and GO LONG to Repeat, I could map UP to Plus and UP LONG to Repeat, etc... in that way we would get a total emulation of the remote including the LONG codes.

p. 

I agree with you Philippe, the "Long Commands" would be very useful.

May you do something about this, Keith?

Thanks and happy new year to all Beoworlders,

Yann.

If one is able to get hold of the 2.2 software will the software then itself upgrade the Beo5 firmware or will this have to be done by a dealer?

 And is it thinkable that anyone who has the software would supply it to others ?

Hello Keith,

You've got a PM.

Yann.

I wish to inform members that the Beo5 Information and Resource download page HERE now has ALL 3rd Party XML files compatible with Beo5 firmware versions 1.34a and the most recent 1.40a available with Beo5 Configuration Tool version 2.20.

Also the following XML files have been added today:-

• MVision STX5 combo SAT- DVB-T Receiver with PVR and Divx player
• HP Windows Media Centre

I wish to inform members that the Beo5 Information and Resource download page HERE has the following XML file added today:-

• Pioneer DV-646A

Why can't I set it to "Continuous" when using 3 party ir?

If I mark the checkbox and click OK, then when I enter the IR tab again the mark in the checkbox is gone.

Using firmware 1.40a with Config Tool 2.20

Here is the IR command (Sony LCD)

<source_subItem stName='Sony LCD\VolUp' stCaption='VolUp' stMenuCaption='VolUp' stScreenType='0' stIR='RAW:GlobalManual=1#ListOfFlanks=$09DA,$01CD,$02DA,$01CC,$052E,$01CC,$02DA,$01CD,$02DB,$01CD,$052E,$01CD,$02DA,$01CD,$02DA,$01CD,$052F,$01E7,$02D9,$01CD,$02D9,$01CD,$02DA,$01CC,$02DA,$6600,$09DA,$01CC,$02DA,$01CD,$052E,$01CD,$02D9,$01CC,$02DA,$01CD,$052F,$01CD,$02D9,$01CD,$02DA,$01CC,$052E,$01CC,$02F3,$01B3,$02F3,$01B3,$02F2,$01B3,$02F2,$6600,$09D8,$01CD,$02D9,$01CD,$052E,$01CD,$02DA,$01CC,$02D9,$01CD,$052F,$01CD,$02D9,$01CD,$02D9,$01CC,$052F,$01E6,$02D9,$01CC,$02D9,$01CD,$02DA,$01CD,$02DA,$6609,$09D8,$01CC,$02D9,$01CC,$052E,$01CC,$02DB,$01CD,$02DA,$01CD,$052F,$01CD,$02DA,$01CD,$02DA,$01CD,$052F,$01E6,$02D9,$01CC,$02DA,$01CD,$02D9,$01CD,$02DA,$FDE8#IRSEQUENCE=RAW#Carrier=38000#Pause1=65000#Pause2=65000#Comment=RAW FlankList: 104 flanks' stLeave='Rel 1' stIRVideoOp1='F0:TV:' stIRVideoOp2='F0:TV:' stIRVideoOp4='L_F0:TV:' stIRVideoOp5='F0:TV:' stIRVideoOp6='F0:TV:' stIRAudioOp1='F0:RADIO:' stIRAudioOp2='F0:TV:' stIRAudioOp4='L_F0:TV:' stIRAudioOp5='F0:RADIO:' stIRAudioOp6='F0:TV:' stIRVideoOp5Link='L_F0:TV:' stIRVideoOp6Link='L_F0:TV:' stIRAudioOp5Link='L_F0:RADIO:' stIRAudioOp6Link='L_F0:TV:' stIRVideoOp2Av='F0:RADIO:' stIRVideoOp4Av='L_F0:RADIO:' stIRVideoOp6Av='F0:RADIO:' stIRVideoOp6AvLink='L_F0:RADIO:' nPage='4' nX='426' nY='20' nWidth='213' nHeight='25' nRowFinal='1' nColumnFinal='2'/>

I thought that the Continues bug was fixed in the new firmware.

Also the IR range is very low, any who knows why?

You have raised two issues which are:-

1. The "Continuous" or "Repeat" function is not working
2. The IR range appears to be very low.

The "Continuous" or "Repeat" function has been fixed in the firmware, but you need a 3rd Party XML file which makes use of the resolved function before the Beo5 will actually repeat a function. Also the repeat function CANNOT be implemented using the RAW protocol.

The "Repeat" function i.e. when you hold a button down, as you see from the RC5 protocol example below the 3rd bit is a toggle bit. This bit is inverted every time a key is released and pressed again. This way the receiver can distinguish between a key that remains down, or is pressed repeatedly.
The next 5 bits represent the IR device address, which is sent with MSB first. The address is followed by a 6 bit command, again sent with MSB first. B&O appear to have fixed the problem in the firmware 1.40a, but that's not the end of the story, we need to change the Beo5 3rd Party XML Generator to take these changes into account. It will not be in the next version, but almost certainly will be in the following one. If all goes well, we should have version 1.1 out within the week, depending if we hit problems.

So, if you have a third party product which conforms to RC5, NEC or bitstream protocol's then the Beo5 XML can be programmed to use the repeat function, other protocols will need more research before a solution willbe provided.

With regards to your second point where you say it has very low range are caused by very short and narrow IR-range of the receivers in some third party products. Apparently, B&O has produced a Beo5 hardware update replacing one of the IR-diodes with one that matches the narrow reception angle of some systems. Both a 850 nm and a new 950 nm Infra Red diodes will be implemented in new Beo5's manufactured from February and the display unit can be replaced in existing units if needed.

First of all it's a Sony LCD TV that I'm trying to control. What protocol is it using? Is there any way to use it with Beo5, but without the RAW codes?

Regarding the range, when using the original Sony remote it works about 10m away, but using the Beo5 remote will only allow 3-4m max.

Anyway, thanks for the answer.