@essence - please don't shoot at Mr10%.

If you read his post above, you will see that he is in the digital age - he uses his pc for media, and has tried out quite a few things to get things working for himself.

He just wasn't satisfied with the results.

My point is: please do experiment a bit with the possibilities that you get from a 'mobile device'/a tablet plus the right app's - to see if better results for what you want, could be achieved.

But  - sorry to say so, Mr 10% - that would in the first place mean getting rid of the 'fear of modern touch inface devices'.

MM

Millemissen wrote:

@essence - please don't shoot at Mr10%.

If you read his post above, you will see that he is in the digital age - he uses his pc for media, and has tried out quite a few things to get things working for himself.

He just wasn't satisfied with the results.

My point is: please do experiment a bit with the possibilities that you get from a 'mobile device'/a tablet plus the right app's - to see if better results for what you want, could be achieved.

But  - sorry to say so, Mr 10% - that would in the first place mean getting rid of the 'fear of modern touch inface devices'.

MM

I think Mr 10% might be referring to streaming media from a mobile device rather that actually using the device itself.

The issue with using other peoples generic hardware to control your audio system are -

 1. In the case of phones, the battery doesn't last long enough as it is when using it as a phone, sitting browsing and reading a large music collection is far from ideal.

2. I agree with Mr 10%, I don't want to fill my phone or tablet with music to use a source for domestic playback - another battery killer and a waste of storage space on the mobile device. Much rather a NAS or similar, stored at higher quality .

3. I don't want to have to browse to and fire up an app when I want to listen to, navigate or browse my music collection, I want my control to be ready to go on pick up.

4. I don't want the vagaries of some one else's hardware and software updates to affect my ability to control my music collection when I want.

5. I don't want phone calls, texts or email alerts interrupting when I'm browsing.

I'm sure there are plenty of others.

While the above may be acceptable for the likes of Sonos etc. it is most definitely not OK for a high quality brand like B&O, it smacks of "I can't be bothered and this is a cheap and easy way out".

Ultimately only B&O dedicated hardware will do, anything else is a cop out. They have an opportunity to show us that their flair for user interaction hasn't deserted them and to make the definitive dedicated AV controller, they need to step up to the plate!!

essence wrote:

You guys are a bunch of nerds.

17 Posts and calling names.  Shows a set of virtual balls. 

essence wrote:

You guys are a bunch of nerds.

😂😂 -  not guilty!

Still, don't let us keep you!

I give this forum a miss for a year or more because of the rude people and as soon as I come back - hey presto!

Thanks MM and Puncher for the comments.

I'm using a Lenovo Yoga with 1tb of SSD. Drive 1 - 512GB has the OS and all other programs. I use an additional dedicated 512GB SSD with all my WMA lossless music. It mirrors my BM/BS5 when at home.

Until recently I was using a Logitech Bluetooth adapter - mainly because of the limited connects on the Yoga and because I wanted to move the PC around. The BT adapter was rubbish. Mediocre sound quality and kept dropping itself from the devices log so a re-install was required nearly every restart.

Through a strict timing issue I had, I could not get the cables I needed at the time window I had available but the workaround was to quickly go and grab a Playmaker to go with BL3's. All very good.

However, as per my earlier post, the whole thing lacks proper integration and seamlessness that one always had with B&O. In 20 years of owning integrated B&O - it has always been a snitch. TV, DVD, Audio, Multi-channel, loudspeakers, 1 remote all came together. Easy.

Now in the so-called digital age, it simply is not easier, its often not as good quality and it certainly is a lot of faffing around and tribalism (i.e no fruit for me please).

And this is the thing, why cant this stuff all integrate together properly in a seamless effective way? The last thing I want to do when I get home and relax is to play with my phone. I don't want it in my sight or ear-shot when I'm relaxing like watching a movie or listening to music etc.. The way some people are, I bet they have an App to print loo paper out when having a sh....

There has got to be an effective way and if B&O are listening - rather than faffing around choking on software for toys, this to me is a HUGE opportunity; bring it all together like few if any have before.

Simples.

10 

Mr 10Percent wrote:

And this is the thing, why cant this stuff all integrate together properly in a seamless effective way? The last thing I want to do when I get home and relax is to play with my phone. I don't want it in my sight or ear-shot when I'm relaxing like watching a movie or listening to music etc.. The way some people are, I bet they have an App to print loo paper out when having a sh....

Amen. I've spent the most part of my time awake with hands on a keyboard for the last 25 years. Only recently, I have learned to come home some evenings, not turn on any computers, and all I do with my phone is connect it to a charger. How thoroughly liberating.

Besides, I hate touch screen controls. Give me buttons and knobs that I can feel and won't alter their function while I'm not looking at them. Have you touch screen advocates ever thought how a blind person would use his music system?

I totally agree. There's no music on my phone , some on my iPod and pad and a stack of CDs . I listen to the radio without going through the Internet unless its podcasts. But I'm finding it very confusing what to buy to replace the beosound Century I bought new in 1996. I keep thinking I've got the answer then I realise why not . I've gone from A9 to Beolab3 with AirPlay to beosound 4 or 5 . But then I've enquired about bosscomm transmitting to the next room from the V1 .....

The century has done good service for 18 years for £1100 on tangible media and a  terrestrial radio.

tournedos wrote:

 Have you touch screen advocates ever thought how a blind person would use his music system?

I am not sure it would be easier for the blind person to go to the place where the cd's are located, pick just the one he/she wants to hear and then pop it into a cd player 😠

MM

In general I am not sure, what some of you guys really want 😕

If you want 'status quo', just stick to cd's, dvd's, radio stations and go on using your good old remote control.

If you want more (play music from a nas, pc og a streaming service...), then please do tell me how you are going to manage the control of it - without some kind of (touch or keyboard/mouse driven) interacting with a screen.

And for gods sake let those damn phones stay in your pockets or connected to a charger - they are too small for the job.

Get a dedicated tablet for media-only, and give it a friendly nickname that won't remind you of work or 'some one elses hardware'....

....at least untill you can buy a 'BeoRemote'!

MM