Bang & Olufsen WISA stability

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StUrrock wrote:
Luke wrote:

 

Hi all, just registered here and thought it was about time to start share stuff and participate in the discussions on this great forum.

 

I can more or less confirm that the connectivity issues that is reported in this thread are all due to disturbances from wi-fi router communication. Probably from the 5ghz band which is quite close to the bandwidth that WISA is using. I experienced the same with my setup and the solution is very simple. Configure your router (both 2.4ghz and 5ghz) to a fixed channel instead of using the default that is "automatic" I for instance choose channel 11 for 2.4ghz and 44 for 5ghz. I experienced A LOT of drop-outs when I installed my setup and I also initially blaimed the WISA. But since the above change/config was mad I haven't experienced one single drop-out and have been running flawless the last couple of months.

 

The main problem was i my living room where I have the following setup:

 

- Beovision 11 - 4 x Beolab 18 - Beolab 19

 

All connected through WISA via the built in module in the BV 11

 

So all of you that encounter problems - try the above and I would bet it fixes the problem. Try different channels also and focus on the 5ghz band. Could be worth mentioning that I'm running Time Capsule and Airport Extreem that extends my wifi. But should be the same for all routers

 

Cheers, Lukas

 

 

Thanks Luke for a great post

 

trouble is 5ghz is going to become more and more congested

 

if your are doing a DIY install then WISA seems a nice idea

 

Dealer/pro installs should NEVER EVER be WISA as drop out free cannot be guaranteed

Thats perfectly true. And thats probably why it's still possible to use all the cable connectivity options in all the WISA equiped products like BL 18 etc.

I live in a very congested area with lot's of wifi-networks appearing when scanning the area and for me this solved the problem 100% since I've been running this setup now for 4 months or something and haven't experienced one single drop-out. One happy owner :)

JD26 wrote:

Thanks Lukas, I'm running Time Capsule, and have now changed to fixed channels. My AirPort Express is not in Network Mode. My only concern is my neighbors' network, as i can see through Wireless Diagnostics Scan several 5GHz and 2.4 GHz networks.

I will try to see if this solves the problem.

No problem. Happy to help! I also have a lot of networks in my neighbourhood and for me it solved the problem perfectly. Hope it does for you as well!

This answers problems I have been having - except I have been losing my wifi connection from time to time instead of the WISA connection to the BL19. 

Hi,

Thanks for the answer. But I don't have the transmitter. I use the Avant 55.

Greetings,

Mirco

Did you find a solution yet? I have a Moment and two Beolabs 18 one of which is connected wirelessly because of its position in the living room. When starting the system often the wireless Beolab doesn't work; sometimes you can see it struggling going from red to green and back to red and so on. Unplugging from mains or rescanning and locating does the trick. I haven't experienced drop outs while the system is working. My dealer blames the 5ghz band on my router (Apple Extreme) which cannot be switched off, causing interference with the WiSA connection. Does anyone have a solution for this (other than switching to wires)?

My dealer also suggested that the problem could be resolved by eg buying an Avant as - according to him - the WiSA transmitter is located "higher" in the Avant as a result of which the problem should go away...concerned this is just a way to sell me an Avant..

JoostdenEngelsman wrote:

My dealer blames the 5ghz band on my router (Apple Extreme) which cannot be switched off, causing interference with the WiSA connection. Does anyone have a solution for this (other than switching to wires)?

I have experimented the AE in the same area as my Moment, BL 18 & 19 ..... not good at all, event after testing several channel combinations. I move ithe AE  to another area of my house and installed a Linksys WAP300N as it only services 2.4Ghz.

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Thanks. That would give me a lot of headache though as the Apple Extreme is my primary router connecting various Airports Express and via Devolo other Beo equipment... This would mean changing my entire home network.. Hope there is another solution out there or that it gets fixed through an update of the WiSA connectivity...

Moreover, I have never experienced drops outs while playing. It's only when getting started that I experience WiSA connectivity problems. Strange, right? In addition, I didn't have any WiSA problems until the large update in October of last year...

 

The Moment Installation Guide has some tips about how to place 5GHz devices, I've copied some of the recommendation below in case you don't have the guide in hands:

Distance between 5 GHz transmitters

The number of 5 GHz transmitter systems in the near surroundings has impact on the stability as each transmitter occupies bandwidth and therefore in dense signal areas infuence each other. To obtain the most stable wireless transmission, Bang & Olufsen has made a number of recommendations for the setup of transmitter systems.

A Bang & Olufsen stereo system setup or surround sound system setup is regarded as one transmission system and consists of a WPL transmitter and all WPL associated speakers. Similarly a 5 GHz Access Point and all associated computers is regarded a transmission system.

  • -  The distance between a 5 GHz transmitter and a speaker must be no more than 12 m / 40 ft; see page 18.

    -  The stereo/surround sound setup must be within an area of maximum 9 × 9 m / 30 × 30 ft; see page 18.
  • -  Transmitters and speakers must not be placed closer to other wireless units than 1 m / 3.3 ft.

  • -  There must be no more than three transmission systems within an area called the 6 m / 20 ft zone, see illustration A. *

Power-up sequence

- In case of more Bang & Olufsen WPL systems in the same room, it is recommended to power only one at the time and wait at least 1 minute before powering up additional units.

* In countries with less than 6 channels available, see page 61, it is recommended to have only 1 additional transmitter system within the 6 m

Site survey (Wi-Spy)

Setting up Wi-Spy

Usually wireless speaker connections should not lead to problems. The WPL Tx module is able to nd unused channels in the 5 GHz band, and makes a map of unused channels in case the present channel in use becomes occupied by another transmission system. In such case moving to an alternative channel happens seamlessly.
Despite this it is recommended to make a site survey in dense residential areas as well as enterprise areas, in countries with few channels (see
page 61), in areas known for wireless problems and if many 5 GHz transmission systems nearby.
In a repair situation a site survey can also reveal if problems are related to lack of channels in the 5 GHz transmission system.
The Wi-Spy DBx + Chanalyzer Pro can be used to visualize which 5 GHz channels are used and unused.

Note: The free-ware program inSIDDer can show all channels, and identify WLAN traf c, whereas it is not able to see radio traf c from other transmission systems using the 5 GHz band (see page 61).

 


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I went from the Transmitter 1 to wired. My dealer didn't have another solution unfortunately. I have a AirPort Time Capsule, and neighbours with Wi-Fi. I find it a little bit misleading, when they say in their commercial that they have found a robust and high quality wireless connection.

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