tournedos wrote:

You mean the Chinese have outsourced silk manufacturing to Italy? They did pretty well themselves for a couple of thousand years.

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wesheltonj wrote:

One more thing about China.  As I have said before they make good in the trash can products.  As an example.  My 4th in under a year Samsung BD-D7500 Blu-ray player has just bit the dust.  These are $350 US each, that 4 in under a year.  And they only reason to buy this china crap, is because its PUC code for B&O.  It mounts real nice to my Beovision 10 with my STB brackets and looks good, but that just it, it only looks good.  I just hope that Samsung makes its panels better then their blu-ray players.

Do exactly the same myself. Was not going to comment on the nationality of the player but yes, the Samsung BD-D7500 Blu-ray player is a load of cr@p and have gone through two of these myself.

wesheltonj wrote:

One more thing about China.  As I have said before they make good in the trash can products.  As an example.  My 4th in under a year Samsung BD-D7500 Blu-ray player has just bit the dust.  These are $350 US each, that 4 in under a year.  And they only reason to buy this china crap, is because its PUC code for B&O.  It mounts real nice to my Beovision 10 with my STB brackets and looks good, but that just it, it only looks good.  I just hope that Samsung makes its panels better then their blu-ray players.

 

Samsung -isn't that from South Korea ? 😕

Steffen wrote:

wesheltonj wrote:

One more thing about China.  As I have said before they make good in the trash can products.  As an example.  My 4th in under a year Samsung BD-D7500 Blu-ray player has just bit the dust.  These are $350 US each, that 4 in under a year.  And they only reason to buy this china crap, is because its PUC code for B&O.  It mounts real nice to my Beovision 10 with my STB brackets and looks good, but that just it, it only looks good.  I just hope that Samsung makes its panels better then their blu-ray players.

 

 

 

Samsung -isn't that from South Korea ? 😕

Well the brand maybe Korean, but the sticker says made in China. Kind of like B&O Play may be from Denmark, but the sticker says made in China.

Oh My... Can somebody tell me what kind of af World we're living in, when even the Koreans are outsourcing to China...😕

Steffen wrote:

Oh My... Can somebody tell me what kind of af World we're living in, when even the Koreans are outsourcing to China...😕

It's a race to the bottom Steffen - the bottom of the 'how little we can pay the workers' scale that is 👍

Steffen wrote:

Oh My... Can somebody tell me what kind of af World we're living in, when even the Koreans are outsourcing to China...😕

Not wishing to be overly political, but it's called globalisation - Capitalism at it's finest.... 🤔

Best

John... 😐

wesheltonj wrote:

One more thing about China.  As I have said before they make good in the trash can products.  As an example.  My 4th in under a year Samsung BD-D7500 Blu-ray player has just bit the dust.  These are $350 US each, that 4 in under a year.  And they only reason to buy this china crap, is because its PUC code for B&O.  It mounts real nice to my Beovision 10 with my STB brackets and looks good, but that just it, it only looks good.  I just hope that Samsung makes its panels better then their blu-ray players.

 

Optical disk reading mechanisms generally are notoriously unreliable, however, I know that with my Sony Bluray player, the instructions state that it is to be placed on a flat and level surface.  

I assume that this could be critical if it has a swing arm laser mechanism, perhaps less so if using a linear tracking arm/sled design.

Nonetheless, I would think that vertical mounting of a player designed for a flat surface would not be conducive to an long and happy life.

On the other hand, they could just be exceptionally cheap and cheerful, albeit good looking players as you say.

HTH

Best

John... 😐

Bentleyman wrote:

It's a race to the bottom Steffen - the bottom of the 'how little we can pay the workers' scale that is 👍

China is far from the cheapest place for wages and Taiwan certainly isn't, where the majority of electronics manufacturing takes place. I think workers in Rochdale earn less, which is why call centres are moving from India to Burnley. I just hope the local Bentley-driving businessmen are helping the local youths get on the job market 👍

Let's worry about our 1 million <25-year-old unemployed than China.

A bit off-topic - but Rochdale is completely on its @rse - even Mc Donalds have closed their town centre outlet. 

I live in-between Rochdale and Manchester, and like nearby Oldham ( which recently saw its Poundshop close down - surely a sign of how bad things are🙁) Rochdale is just dying a slow, painful death.

Like many post-industrial towns, there are many reasons - the macro economic problems that are beyond local control/influence made far worse, imo, by the underlying issues around housing - so much social housing was sold off ( Thanks for that, Thatcher 😭) that those in real need are now scrabbling around to live in overpriced, run down, privately owned rentals that were/should be state owned.

So many council houses were sold that party fueled the housing bubble (a whole other thread) but the original tenants then sold on at a big, short term gain..... but now, wwhen real need for social housing is growing, its all in the hands of greedy landlords charging hundreds a week to the councils up and down the UK to house people in tens of thousands of buildings the council used to own .....scandalous.

B&O Play will need to introduce a substantially cheaper line to appeal to many of the locals in such troubled towns..... or outsource to somewhere even cheaper than China to keep costs down......   Rochdale, perhaps ???