"So is this flat-screen television worth up to five times as much as a similarly sized Sony Bravia XBR? I guess it depends on how closely you think we are related to those apes."

Love it! 

And of course the magazine 'Vogue' is very well placed to make a judgement!-

My mistake, I thought this was a forum for people who liked B and O. Say something good about B and O and receive personal atacks.

Say something bad about B and O and everybody seems to join in.

There are some who post here who as near as I can tell have NEVER posted a compliment  or anything good about B and O, almost as if they are on Pioneer's payroll. Their favorite past time is attacking and criticizing B and O.

If you want to call that a chip on my shoulder, so be it.

Just one question:

Why do people justify spending thousands on a music system, with 'audiophile' systems running into six figures, yet when a TV is over £3k everybody is up in arms?

Could it be that we can only hear the difference and can't see the difference in quality reproduction products?!

I hear the following quite a lot and can't get over how people appreciate TV's and hifi's so differently!

BV7-40: £9k for a fantastic picture, loads of relevant connections, stunning build quality & outstanding design? doesn't include surround sound? General response: NO WAY!

BL5: £11k for fantastic sound, loads of power and digital connections, stunning build quality & outstanding design? doesn't include a hi-fi? General response: WOW YES PLEASE!

Hi - I for many years have been a very serious B&O fan and their products have connected emotionally with me like no other - I remember the magic in July 1998 when I spent my first evening with my brand new BS9000 - and until recently have owned just about every beovision, beolab and beosound created in the last 15 years.  .. and I am not some super rich person but someone who has really loved the products.

But for me it is all over - why? - because the high end beovision range is a disaster and this is a serious problem because TV is becoming a much more important part of life.   I sold my beovison 4-65 and replaced it with a pioneer 6090 and b&w 800 series speakers and think this - there is no magic in either the bv4 or the pioneer but the visual experience provided by the pioneer is in a different league.

I know I am not going mad because 4 of my good friends have also made the same transition in the last 18 months and all feel the same.  We will all return if B&O gets a grip of the high end TV again and prices it realistically.  

For those who still feel the magic that is great - I hope B&O enable me to experience it again one day.   

Pushkin, could this be a bit of boredom masquerading as dissatisfaction?

Razlaw:

My mistake, I thought this was a forum for people who liked B and O. Say something good about B and O and receive personal atacks.

Say something bad about B and O and everybody seems to join in.

There are some who post here who as near as I can tell have NEVER posted a compliment  or anything good about B and O, almost as if they are on Pioneer's payroll. Their favorite past time is attacking and criticizing B and O.

If you want to call that a chip on my shoulder, so be it.

Well maybe we should all join in and make statements that are not based on fact- as indeed so many have done on here and when its clear the debate has been lost it would seem its the same individuals that post the same mantra. Lets tell all the cusomers that the BS3 supports HD audio!!

Maybe some- indeed myself, have never posted a compliment because they are in the real world and have bought the later products- and ive been dissapointed which considering ive been bying B&O for 12 years is a very sad fact.

If a long standing purchaser feels like myself- is that a good advert for B&O?? so many wealthy individuals I know have deserted the brand- if there was an ounce on truth in  some of the comments made on here the company would be thriving.

I am glad you finally admit you have nothing good to say about B and O. It confirms the myopic and biased perspective of all of your posts. 

As for the high def sound, in case you had not noticed that thread ended quite awhile ago. You are the only one who keeps posting about it.  I have not responded to your recent posts about the topic as your posts were utterly unrelated to the thread you were posting them in and dealt with a closed topic. But since you can't get over the subject I will explain it one more time. I do so with apologies to those who do not wish to discuss the topic any more but since you keep bringing it up, I will respond this time. I am sure it is a waste of time as you have had it explained to you before, you have been provided multiple written documents online explaining it, it has been pointed out to you that the BS3 on screen display indicates it is outputting multi-channel pcm and you still wish to argue the point. I would ask you to provide an articulate basis for your position and some authority for it, but you have been asked that before and have been totally incapable of doing it.

1. BS3 does NOT decode dolby hd or dts hd

2. Decoding may be done in a blu-ray player

3. if the player does the decoding, it decodes it into a multichannel linear pcm which the BS3 accepts via HDMI and does output. As I said, the BS3 will display that info.

4. The only question is the maximum level, 48, 96 or 192 khz. The vast majority of blu-ray are 48khz so it is almost irrelevant whether the higher formats are output.  

As for your disappointment with the B and O products you have purchased recently, they have these modern marvels called stores. One is capable of visiting these stores and looking at the products and seeing if they meet your demands and desires before you purchase them.

I am sure you totally ignored the link here about the BV4 being in the top 5 plasmas along with the Kuro as well as the link to the glowing review of the BV9. Afterall, they are contrary to your view and you seem to be unwilling to look at anything contrary to your dislikes and complaints about B and O.