Millemissen wrote:

I guess, you are not missing anything!

However, not everyone wants to carry his iPhone everywhere in the house or talk to his devices.

My pledge is, B&O should let people decide, what way they want to control their B&O devices.....that might even be a good selling point for the dealers.

P.S. What does the rest of the family do, when you/the ‘controller’ leave the house (with your iPhone)?

If you do want to go the AP2 way, a good idea could be to have a central device - a dedicated iPad maybe - for controlling your setup........unless of course you live alone.

As for just saying ‘play Pink Floyd...’ - that is definitely not the way I listen to music.

Mostly you’d get ‘Money’ served from your assistent.

Personally i have no good experience with more complicated wishes, when trying to use the assistents.

MM

There is a tv - and there is a BV.

John wrote:

That's exactly what I do quite often. I supply a dedicated (or several) iPad Mini on a Launchport dock that stays in the house as the controller, this is good option with or without BeoLink.

At home I have Google Home mini and the Nest display

mbolo01 wrote:

Finally, which solution other than Beolink multiroom can extend the listening of an old LP playing on you living room Beogram in one or all all the other rooms of your house by simply pressing or smoothly touching the appropriate device? If you know about one, I can go for it and sell my B&O kits.

I use the touch to join feature everyday, mostly for distributing the news playing from the TV in the morning. I also have my BS9000 cd player linked in using a NL/ML converter which I can Join in from any room. These two use-cases are lost with new b&o speakers without network link.

I started looking into alternative solutions after this announcement and I believe the Yamaha MusicCast replicates most of the network link functionality we have. As well as Deezer, Tidal and TuneIn their solution can distribute line-in sources too such as a TV or vinyl. They make a pre-amp, full amp, and also active speakers. The pre-amp box is probably the best fit for both existing and new b&o speakers (assuming they power on when detecting a line in signal). However it wouldn't be able to control the connected external sources such as my BS9000 or TV from link rooms, nor does it have physical remotes :(

Rob.

Yes the app still works as it always has with everything but Balance. I very much doubt they would remove it, it just may not be included on future products. 

To answer another question you can't touch to join but you can trigger music with one touch on a single device or group by using the profile buttons on top of Balance, Beosound 1 and Beosound 2 with GVA.

John wrote:

Yes the app still works as it always has with everything but Balance. I very much doubt they would remove it, it just may not be included on future products.

John wrote:

Millemissen wrote:

 

 

P.S. 
What does the rest of the family do, when you/the ‘controller’ leave the house (with your iPhone)?

If you do want to go the AP2 way, a good idea could be to have a central device - a dedicated iPad maybe - for controlling your setup........unless of course you live alone.

 

As for just saying ‘play Pink Floyd...’ - that is definitely not the way I listen to music.

Mostly you’d get ‘Money’ served from your assistent.

Personally i have no good experience with more complicated wishes, when trying to use the assistents.

MM

 

That's exactly what I do quite often. I supply a dedicated (or several) iPad Mini on a Launchport dock that stays in the house as the controller, this is good option with or without BeoLink. 

At home I have Google Home mini and the Nest display that do a fine job of controlling stuff and I can ask to play a radio station in a room, play on a group or play a playlist or particular artist or track. Both mine and Mrs W's Google home account are part of the same 'home' setup so we can both control anything that's being played. 

Everyone uses stuff their own way and I wish they didn't take away BeoLink but here we are, who knows what else will come in future. Can't we all just get along and be friends? 

I will be doing a live show next week with Steve Devonshire, the head of UK Training and Matt my area manager both from B&O HQ. It will be worth voicing these concerns to them and see if they can add anything. These are all very valid points. 

Yes, certainly we can - these was and is no such intention not to get along and be be friends, not at all.

Personally I think that you (and your colleagues) are doing a very fine job making B&O known to the workd.

However, it must be possible for those of us, who happily use NL (with Touch to Join etc etc) and the BeoRemote One/the Bang & Olufsen app for controlling our audio devices to express our concerns and disapprovement in the decision to slowly let this die.

In this sense I hope, that you will present the opinions stated by several good and loyal costumers to Steve and Matt....in the hope that they might take that back to the HQ in Struer.

We may also remember, what Kristian/the new CEO in the new strategy paper mentioned in his diagnosis and symptons (slide 15) about ‘more issues to fix’:

Connection lost with core consumer

Weaker re-purchase rate over the last 10 years and growing number of consumer friction points.

It might be a good idea to listen to some of these costumers, who - as also stated in this thread - more and more are beginning to look out for alternatives to their current B&O gear.

Looking forward to your live show next week.

MM

Millemissen wrote:

Yes, certainly we can - these was and is no such intention not to get along and be be friends, not at all.

Personally I think that you (and your colleagues) are doing a very fine job making B&O known to the workd.

However, it must be possible for those of us, who happily use NL (with Touch to Join etc etc) and the BeoRemote One/the Bang & Olufsen app for controlling our audio devices to express our concerns and disapprovement in the decision to slowly let this die.

In this sense I hope, that you will present the opinions stated by several good and loyal costumers to Steve and Matt....in the hope that they might take that back to the HQ in Struer.

We may also remember, what Kristian/the new CEO in the new strategy paper mentioned in his diagnosis and symptons (slide 15) about ‘more issues to fix’:

Connection lost with core consumer

Weaker re-purchase rate over the last 10 years and growing number of consumer friction points.

It might be a good idea to listen to some of these costumers, who - as also stated in this thread - more and more are beginning to look out for alternatives to their current B&O gear.

Looking forward to your live show next week.

MM

There is a tv - and there is a BV.

Well Raz I don’t think you can expect a fruitcake this year with an attitude like that.

I have to make my voice heard in this too. Can only agree with what everyone has already said that the USP that B&O has had for many years is about to disappear. I became a customer for ease of use and that it was possible to build systems of their products. The stability of the system has disappeared and system thinking is on the way. Then there is only design and good speakers left.

Many have raised the point that "touch to join" disappears, but the biggest limitation is that the source is moved from the product to the phone. Today, the radio switches on in the kitchen in the morning and then it is on regardless of who is in the kitchen. If I want to listen to the radio in other parts of the house I use "touch to join".

Many have already written how they are considering other systems and I myself am completely on Sonos, but keep B&O's speakers in large rooms. It will be an investment and as someone pointed out that the older products with ML become obsolete. Can be considered, but it stops new purchases of B&O until I understand better.