Puncher wrote:

Carolpa wrote:

But if B&o is not the choice (anymore), choose something different.......... simple as that 

 

But that's exactly the point, that's what everyone else is doing, there are nowhere near enough people wanting and willing to buy what they have to offer!

And thats the reason why they are have to find a partner. The company is too small to keep pace with the fast changes in technologies and possibilities. They can't hardly be at all the frontlines anymore.

 

Carolpa wrote:

Puncher wrote:

Carolpa wrote:

But if B&o is not the choice (anymore), choose something different.......... simple as that 

 

But that's exactly the point, that's what everyone else is doing, there are nowhere near enough people wanting and willing to buy what they have to offer!

 

And thats the reason why they are have to find a partner. The company is too small to keep pace with the fast changes in technologies and possibilities. They can't hardly be at all the frontlines anymore.

 

......and so we agree!

Puncher wrote:

But that's exactly the point, that's what everyone else is doing, there are nowhere near enough people wanting and willing to buy what they have to offer!

off course... the magic is gone! and others are offering the same (and more) for less now.

Chris wrote:

Puncher wrote:

But that's exactly the point, that's what everyone else is doing, there are nowhere near enough people wanting and willing to buy what they have to offer!

off course... the magic is gone! and others are offering the same (and more) for less now.

 

Fine...........so lets move on to the "others"? 

If B&o has no future let it be.............. but lets hope it has, even as part of  another company! 

I'd like to know, who is 'offering the same (or more) for less'?

MM

They've just released a very well received music system, and killer wireless earphones. Even What HIFI and AV Forums liked it. EVEN

It's not that bad is it. Beats just got paid billions for their crappy headphones by Apple so anything can happen🤒

Try to find a motorised stand in another brand or a generic motorised stand that will take any TV.

There's just about nothing out there except for a couple of poor quality limited movement wall brackets. B&O have been ahead of the motorised TV game for years, and what they offer is really elegant and worth the money. Why on earth haven't they made more of this in their advertising?

Not to mention ICEpower Class D amplifiers beng supplied by B&O to the best of the competition.

They still have so much going for them, but the competition keeps increasing. When the only choice was a CRT TV, B&O were the masters of disguise and clever design. Now that screens are 50mm thick there is little to be clever with regarding disguise, and little to justify very high price differentials.

Graham

MM, I know, I know...

Lets put our love at B&O and the design aside. And compare only one piece, the Moment.

A Mac mini as music server, with music software as Amarra or Audirvana+, Airfoil Speakers software for the eventually airplay and the iPad with remote. Hardware connected to the aux on your BS or ML/NL converter.

Everything easy upgradable to the latest software, eventually usable for other things as email etc... Easy to use for the whole family and sounds like heaven.

That is magic to me as B&O was back in the years 70-80, when it had something more compared to others. But I still love B&O, it's a virus!

 

 

Chris Townsend wrote:

They've just released a very well received music system, and killer wireless earphones. Even What HIFI and AV Forums liked it. EVEN

 

 

It's not that bad is it. Beats just got paid billions for their crappy headphones by Apple so anything can happen🤒

 

+1

 

Chris wrote:

MM, I know, I know...

Lets put our love at B&O and the design aside. And compare only one piece, the Moment.

A Mac mini as music server, with music software as Amarra or Audirvana+, Airfoil Speakers software for the eventually airplay and the iPad with remote. Hardware connected to the aux on your BS or ML/NL converter.

 

That is magic to me as B&O was back in the years 70-80, when it had something more compared to others. But I still love B&O, it's a virus!

 

Definitely a Mac Mini used that way can be, what is some people want - no doubt about that.

If B&O wanted to compete with that, they had not created the BS Moment - because they know that they would loose that game before it even started.

With the BS Moment they wanted to make an audiosystem with a different approach to 'listening to/living with/using music'.

There has been written a lot (especially from me) in the Moment thread - no reason to repeat that here.

Now the BS Moment is available at the dealers everyone has a chance to experience it, and to see, if it suits his/her needs/wishes, or if they want another solution.

I bid you, go have a look, let the dealer demomstrate, play with it yourself and report back, if you want to.

If your audiosystem - after that -  still is the MAC-solution, it's fine.

But do yourself the favour to check, if the Moment does things different, before you disqualify the intensions, that B&O has with their suggestion for a modern audiosystem.

MM