I love B&O not because it is the best performing for the price but because it’s high performance + amazing design.  The speakers are amazing, they are priced high for what you get but other speakers simply don’t have the design. My B&O System has always been a conversation piece so when you think that not only do you get some HiFi speakers but also a piece of art it makes it (to me) a better deal. As for the TV's honestly I believe they are way over priced. They use the same panels as TV's at least half their price and to top it off some have a reputation to be buggy. Frankly besides the BV10 I don’t think they are really anything to look at either. I have no problem spending the money on something I KNOW will last me but as stated before TV technology just progresses too quickly.

BenSA wrote:

B&O has been placed in a very difficult situation, not of their making...

I couldn't agree less, sorry..  ❓

I love B&O through and through, but even my own blind love is starting to fade a little.  I just can't see value in some new products no matter how hard i look.  The one thing that B&O ought to hang their head in shame in is the connectivity of their products.  I saw what a Loewe Connect could do the other day and i was blown away..  for £995.

I also bought a B&W Zeppelin, which does what i've always wanted from my BeoSound 1 - or any product from B&O.

That said, i was blown away by the BV10-46 - which is in comparison acceptably priced compared to the 7-40.  PQ is great.

Lee

BenSA wrote:

 

To me its just seems simple, if you don't like it, think its over priced, don't buy it. I find that the forum has become a very negative place almost anti-B&O.

I completely disagree with you. It is a very unique and friendly website for people who trully get excited with B&O products for decades now. It needs i think no more than common sense to understand that the company loses its path. Unfotunately the mass production of TV and HiFi sets from other companies should have raised B&O standards. We all love BV10, BV7, and all the new stuff that are produced. Don't you think that apart from the incredible design they should offer you a product that behaves as it should and extra-ordinary after sales service??? Well guess what!! They have new products that fail to meet even the standard requirements of other TV sets. I want to stay on B&O side. But clouding issues, software conflicts, lack of after sales service {BEO(who)CARE(s)}, and many more problems that arise to customers that pay lots of money.....it is just not so B&O any more.

For me and i believe for others any new product of B&O that comes up and shines to our eyes from now on passes a test period for X months to unfortunate Beta-tester clients till we decide if we want to buy it. No more MKI,II,III,IV and so on. I am fed up with it.

TripEnglish wrote:

Well then let me choose another metaphor:

I don't think you have to choose any metaphor.  Beoworld is turning into an B&O anti-enthusiast site.  Its difficult to imagine someone contemplating a B&O purchase would come to this site and think new Bang and Olufsen products are wonderful.  However there are over 13000 members of Beoworld.  Not everyone has a bad feeling about B&O.  Yesterday I received a supplemental brochure from B&O which I thought really was well done.  While looking at that magazine, I decided I really need a BV10 and a Beolab 11 which will ultimately go into a bedroom.

Yes I recently expressed disappointment about the Beosound 5 but I still really like the sound and the design.  However I didn't complain about the price.  I also never really liked the Beosound 9000 but most individuals in this forum think its a design classic.  I liked the design but I thought it was too noisy.  

Complaining about prices for a product you already know is expensive is a mystery to me.  If you want a lower price or a quicker refresh of technology then go elsewhere.  Maybe the Great Recession has much to do with pricing angst or the currency fluctuations.

Since cars are often used as examples here I will mention a car that I think is too expensive.  I would really like an Aston Martin but I honestly can't afford it.  Its not that it is overpriced because they seem to be doing well.  I just don't have the money for sometime like that.  Maybe overpriced and not in budget are the same thing.

linder wrote:

 

Since cars are often used as examples here I will mention a car that I think is too expensive.  I would really like an Aston Martin but I honestly can't afford it.  Its not that it is overpriced because they seem to be doing well.  I just don't have the money for sometime like that.  Maybe overpriced and not in budget are the same thing.

If you know anyone with an Aston Martin that waits his software update to solve issues on his brand new car let us know...

Guys, guys, guys...

Don't confuse enthusiastic complaining about poor business practice(s) with anti-enthusiasm of the brand and the products!

I wouldn't be here if I didn't love the brand, the history, and the products. Trip and I seem to share a common pleasure in pushing each other's buttons from time to time... nothing more / nothing less! 😁

As far as the topic... something tells me we will revisit it again and again and again... why? Because we care.

DrDimitris wrote:

linder wrote:

 

Since cars are often used as examples here I will mention a car that I think is too expensive.  I would really like an Aston Martin but I honestly can't afford it.  Its not that it is overpriced because they seem to be doing well.  I just don't have the money for sometime like that.  Maybe overpriced and not in budget are the same thing.

If you know anyone with an Aston Martin that waits his software update to solve issues on his brand new car let us know...

 

 

I actually don't know anyone with an Aston Martin.  Where I live, parking is a problem.  I would have to spend $50000 for a garage space which makes it even less affordable.

Thanks,

Astons... I have had three over the years ...still listed in the AMOC registry.

NEVER had a problem -nothing, zip, nada, except a little run-in with a tree... but that was my fault!

B&O seriously need to make an iPod sound dock (B&W Zepplin?). You only have to look at the young, afluent professionals in the cities with their stylish bijou apartments. We havn't the size for loudspeakers however, I feel a top quality sound dock would really reignite B&O. I would certainly upgrade to one! I've been a fan of CD since 1984! However, since I got my iPod last year, i've never used CD since   my poor little BeoSound Century seems to be very redundant these days!

Come on B&O lets have decent sound dock and some quality entry level 32" below 2.5K televisions!

Definately agree with having B&O in other showrooms. I used to love it when thery were in Selfridges and Harrods!

I disagree. I have lived in a NYC shoe box, there is space for BL3 and a BC2 or BS5. They need to take further swings at digital music. BS5 alone is not enough.