B&O doesnt recommend MasterLink anymore, the recommend CAD 7 cables for your house ???

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There is no such thing as future proofing when designing a network.  However it is good for a least five years maybe 10.  Companies large and small are specifying cat 7 for many new networks.  As the recession ends whenever that is, the demand for cat 7 will increase significantly.

burantek wrote:

The biggest difference w/ CAT7 is that each pair is shielded to eliminate cross talk...

8 wires / 2 per pair = 4 pairs independently shielded.

Spot on! This is the B&O GUIDELINE I have read in the CAT7 manual received from my B&O dealer. When you are HiFi use the CAT7 for shielded reasons. And for HD content without frozen mements while viewing HD VIDEO. CAT7 is multi shielded inside like burantek wrote each cable pair inside. ie Video shielded from Audio etc.

Be aware also that CAT7 cables may never be pulled or stretched, they are sensible inside. For maximum quality reasons B&O advises you this in their manual.

Regards, Robert

Stan wrote:

 

According to this thread, not all Cat 5 and 6 works "perfectly"... at least if you have a BL3500 in the mix.

 

http://forum.beoworld.org/forums/p/10922/81475.aspx#81475

 

Short story shorter, you need *shielded* cat 5 or 6.  I believe Cat 7 is shielded by default so this is not an issue.

Stan

 

 True.  I should have stipulated I was talking about STP, as opposed to UTP Cat 5 and 6 cable.  This is the type found as standard in nearly all structured cabling systems, and since I have only ever used utp for short lengths of lead straigh into a devioce, I never thought to differentiate in my initial post.

A CAT7 photo, see the multi shielding and wiki link:

link

 

Are you HiFi to take the effort the follow the B&O guidelines?

Regards, Robert

rednik wrote:

Stan wrote:

 

 

According to this thread, not all Cat 5 and 6 works "perfectly"... at least if you have a BL3500 in the mix.

 

/forum/general-discussion-and-questions/beosound-9000-and-beolab-3500#post-1831729

 

Short story shorter, you need *shielded* cat 5 or 6.  I believe Cat 7 is shielded by default so this is not an issue.

Stan

 

 

 True.  I should have stipulated I was talking about STP, as opposed to UTP Cat 5 and 6 cable.  This is the type found as standard in nearly all structured cabling systems, and since I have only ever used utp for short lengths of lead straigh into a devioce, I never thought to differentiate in my initial post.

While I'm sure that the OP appreciates your advice not to future proof his setup, I'll reiterate that the Cat7 installation is the standard and, going forward, the next generation of features will not work with Cat5 or Cat6 cabling. They do not have the bandwidth to carry the signals. So if all you want to do is a basic MasterLink setup for current products and never be able to take advantages of the new features rolling out over the next 18-24 months, by all means heed Rednik's advice. Otherwise, the Cat7 cabling premium is hardly worth the fuss and comes out to about $0.31 a foot in the US. The Cat6 I was using prior to this ran just over $0.25. 

Trip:

Would that then be wise to include a run of Cat 7 for the new BV 10 model I saw today iin California  ?

SWISS_2 wrote:

Trip:

Would that then be wise to include a run of Cat 7 for the new BV 10 model I saw today iin California  ?

Yes!

At this point we have exhausted our stores of spooled ML & PL and are only using Cat7. It works great for existing systems as the product cables still terminate in familiar ML & PL heads, but future products will not only have RJ45 jacks for the Cat7 cable, but will make use of its tremendous bandwidth for the new features.

The other benefit is the very low cost when compared with ML & PL cabling which averages over $2.50 per foot off the spool. 

 

Thank you.

We discussed every thing else regarding the BV 10 ( the side-swing mounting plate, cable attachments on the bottom of the screen,  grill cloth colour choices, etc )  but this move to Cat 7, and what is coming sounds significant.

Thank you this is very helpful to know - I now have the interesting task of replacing my cat 5e with cat 7 and so really hope this heralds the advent of HD video distribution throughout the house.  Would also be good if the increased bandwidth allowed two way communication.

So all those people that decided to go wireless for their IT as it was the 'Future' are now a bit stuck!

Also it sounds like (I've not read all the other threads) that I would need several Cat7 cables, 1 for ML, 1 (for each) PL, etc?

Are they then going to make recommendations about which Ethernet switch these all connect to centrally? 10-Gig / Gig / Fast / Eth? all full wire switching speed? etc, etc

Or are they thinking of just daisy chaining the cables for all devices / speakers?

What happens in locations that still use / need RF signals? is that another RF to Ethernet adaptor?

I can see the logic but this will prove very interesting to connect some of the older collectable systems etc............

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