This is just what i ment. You have your eyes open.

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Tod Daniel wrote:

Sorry guys, but I have no faith in Made in China for the premium market.

There's no reason for this than some kind of Asian xenophobia. As I've said many times, you don't see the likes of Apple saying that their products would be so much beter.....if only they were made in Denmark!

Chinese manufacturers simply produce, to your exact spec, what you tell them to produce. They don't use materials you've not specified or, say, a rubber which is sub-standard.

Chinese manufactured products which do not last the test of time are NOT problems from the manufacturing process (if they were, the producer woul quickly switch suppliers), they from the SPECIFICATION supplied in order to reduce costs as much as possible - there's a very good reason why your Sony TV now costs £499. To get it produced for £499, corners have to be cut. That's the problem, not the manufacturing process.

The problem with us consumers is, generally speaking, we all want to pay as little as possible, but demand high quality products in return. There has to be a trade-off somewhere.

As for this "made in Italy" statement - I buy hand made shirts from Italy. They are always later than they specify, there are certain periods of the year where the Italian factories are shut for weeks (Christmas, first week Jan, August etc) and, looking at the best shirts from the likes of Brioni, the buttons come loose quite quickly as they are hand stitched. The amount of shirts I've taken to my local tailor is quite unbelievable. Once he had to stitch six buttons back on.

Ironically you'll find that most fashion brands now manufacture in China. Armani do, D&G will produce some product over there, too, much like B&O do with their cheaper products, such as the BS8.

And I love my BS8.

Tod Daniel wrote:

....my toys....

That sums up everything I need to know about how you view your products.

@ moxxey

It's easy to say there's no problem - when u aint yourself got any problem...

But if you had spent £5k, £10k, £15k++ of your own, hard earned dosh and all you had were continual problems ~ problems they couldnt even sort out at the dealer or even making visits to your home, you'd soon change your tune.

Guaranteed

@ bentleyman

But YOU must admit you created this thread out of nothing, or at least out of a poor Google translation of a guy's first post.  

Guaranteed