Avant 85"

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Michael wrote:

Roger wrote:

I will hold my judgment of the panel until I have tested today's SW release for the Avant, which is claimed to be the same as the one used by flatpanels.dk in their review.

Floor stand changes position all the time? How did you set it up?

Roger

The panel won't change with a software update of the TV itself. The panel is very much fixed. As a pair of connected speakers. It just displays whatever is inputed to it. 

I mean, for example if I move the stand to my current place in my sofa and then change source to TV from Apple TV that it might move to the default TV position. (Not sure it does this) BUT when I change to a music source, then it always goes to the audio stand position and it is very annoying because they are very different and it takes time. When the TV is on I dont want it to move around (same with speakers). A possiblity to change that behavior would be awesome.

Did the software come out today? Im at work so I haven't been able to try it out yet. My biggest issue with my Avant is that it dims and brightens the screen very strangely in dim room light situations. I have a new one waiting to replace my current Avant - perhaps it is a hardware issue but I think not.. 

 

When I change video sources, the tv does not change position unless of course you have assigned a change of position with the My Buttons.  The only time the tv moves without me choosing is when moving from a video to an audio source.  Now it obviously moves into audio position.  A way to prevent this is to use a My Button shortcut for your audio source - set it up to use the same stand position as your video source.  This should prevent the stand from moving.  

I'm also not experiencing the popping you mentioned when changing source.  The only popping I experience is through my external speakers when they're turning on or off - which only happens when I turn the tv on and off (with power saving on).  With power saving off, the speakers stay on all the time so no popping at all.  But I felt that was a waste of electricity having the speakers on all the time, so I turned power saving back on.  

The diming problem is said to be one of the issues sorted out in today's software launch (see separate thread). Please post any findings in the new thread.

I set up the stand to have the usual audio, video and standby positions - but also entered positions for each source. First I used the same position as for TV viewing for Spotify, but programmed another position for this source last night. As you do this, you can also assign a speaker group to each source. I added three speaker groups, as I also have a projector (which turns the sound stage 90 degrees). I found this to be very elegant and a huge improvement over the 7-55 where you were limited to the number of speakers for Audio and Video mode. The audio handling of the Avant puzzles me as well: using the built-in Spotify Connect feature, the sound is clearly improved (listening via BeoLab 5) compared to using a BeoSound 5/BeoMaster 5 via ML to the 7-55. Knowing that the BeoLab 7-6 is 160 cm wide and a highly respected tv speaker I will take some heat for this statement: The built-in speakers in the Avant is significantly better IMHO. I did not expect that. But I had expected a better picture for 720p sources...

Roger

Solidsnake wrote:
I'm also not experiencing the popping you mentioned when changing source.  The only popping I experience is through my external speakers when they're turning on or off - which only happens when I turn the tv on and off (with power saving on).  With power saving off, the speakers stay on all the time so no popping at all.  But I felt that was a waste of electricity having the speakers on all the time, so I turned power saving back on.  


I mean the same sound as you mean. I don't like the speakers turning on and off all the time (one of my BL9 goes yellow after to many on/off in a short amount of time, but it seems related to a defect PL1 port on the TV since it works better since I changed ports, getting a new tv so I´ll see after).

Having power saving off in sound settings would be horrible for me because I hear the speakers noise when they are not in use (especially my BL8000 surrounds).

If I move my tv a few degrees from my video stand position I think it will go back to the straight place when I change source but not sure. It did this when I used my old beo4 remote from my kitchen - perhaps it makes it act different. But the move on audio source is annoying - I usually change positions a lot (different places) so I cant program the "same" position. Stupid idea to have a audio position necessary.. 

I went to the Canadian launch of the Avant 85" tonight.

Rather than having it at the Toronto store they held it at what I was told is the residence of one of the owners of the store - it was a very impressive house indeed. There was an infinity pool, a full B&O home theater room, car elevator with Lambo, etc. 

The set looks great as you would expect, good viewing angles,good blacks, back of it looks marvellous. 

The presentation with black cloth literally thrown over the components driving the set left something to be desired. Also although I counted at least 6 lab 5's and many more lab 6000's in the house, there was no music playing anywhere, even at a low level. Very strange for a company that sells sound systems. There was also no audio coming from the Avant. 

 

 

Ryan wrote:

I went to the Canadian launch of the Avant 85" tonight.

Rather than having it at the Toronto store they held it at what I was told is the residence of one of the owners of the store - it was a very impressive house indeed. There was an infinity pool, a full B&O home theater room, car elevator with Lambo, etc. 

The set looks great as you would expect, good viewing angles,good blacks, back of it looks marvellous. 

The presentation with black cloth literally thrown over the components driving the set left something to be desired. Also although I counted at least 6 lab 5's and many more lab 6000's in the house, there was no music playing anywhere, even at a low level. Very strange for a company that sells sound systems. There was also no audio coming from the Avant. 

It looks like the guy is in fact living in a beostore. That is dedication!

Did you happen to see a projector out connection on the TV?

The speakers look kind of small under this screen. I would have thought that they would make them extend further.

 

On the projector out, do not expect this on any tv anymore, there are all sorts of digital copyrights that might be violated when outputting the high quality videostream to an unknown device. I suppose thats is the (only) reason to not have this feature anymore.

crossbytje wrote:

On the projector out, do not expect this on any tv anymore, there are all sorts of digital copyrights that might be violated when outputting the high quality videostream to an unknown device. I suppose thats is the (only) reason to not have this feature anymore.

I also believe that's the reason why all BS4-based-Beovisions doesn't provide video-out anymore. Even the small scart connection provides no video-out-signal anymore, so you can't connect an old videorecorder to record anything. Very sad.

Regards

Räuber

Both the wife and i think it looks a more confortabble design as an Avant than the 55, if that makes sense! The rear looks very neat, but i must admit i thought the increase in size would have made for a larger better proportioned speaker too. What are the specs? i.e. side lit/full panel array etc. Looks a bit fatter!

Roger are you saying Spotify sounds better processed through a Beosystem 4 Avant, or are you saying the Avant with Beolab 5's, sounds better than the Beolab 7-6? I don't think you will get much flak for the latter statement at all, as most of us would expect that including myself.

Chris Townsend wrote:

Both the wife and i think it looks a more confortabble design as an Avant than the 55, if that makes sense! The rear looks very neat, but i must admit i thought the increase in size would have made for a larger better proportioned speaker too. What are the specs? i.e. side lit/full panel array etc. Looks a bit fatter!

Roger are you saying Spotify sounds better processed through a Beosystem 4 Avant, or are you saying the Avant with Beolab 5's, sounds better than the Beolab 7-6? I don't think you will get much flak for the latter statement at all, as most of us would expect that including myself.

Beovision 7-55 Mk2, 2xBeovision 8-32, Avant RF 28, Beoplay A9, Beolit 12, Beocom 2, Beotime, H6, Form 2.

Just looked quickly but it does not look thicker(not much at least) than the 55". The black boxes in the middle are unproportionally big now however. And you could google samsung 85" panels and see if they are edge lit and then you know.

Seems like it might be a real backlit display anyway. "One of the key differences of this TV is that it has a full array backlight around the back, which means it doesn’t have the edge-lit display. Samsung will also include the local dimming on this set so this combined with the back-lit display will improve the picture quality."

That is their own TV-set however and they won't tell you it has full array just "
Precision Black Pro" and that it has clusters of LEDS. Not sure if it is really _real_ local dimming full array but it sounds quite good. 

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