The fact that you can't get a response is very disappointing. I've sent an email to B&O support about this issue but I doubt that will get escalated anywhere. I'll keep pursuing this. If B&O doesn't update the Avant to allow for Beolab 50, that would be a clear signal they've completely given up on this model (that's only 3 years old at most). They've updated it to allow for Beolab 90 connection but will await to see if they push an update for Beolab 50 connectivity.
Avant 2014+
The main takeaway from this discussion is the pros and cons for both are completely subjective. Seems everyone else here has the MK1. I would highly recommend testing both out if you can before dropping that much money. Just a further note on the edge lit downside of the MK1 is here in the review from Flatpanels HD. Here is an image they took of the edge lit issue - the contrast is exaggerated here but this is the exact thing that I didn't like. Yes, you can get nice black bars on top and bottom but you get uneven light from the sides. You can obviously read the full review here : http://www.flatpanelshd.com/article.php?subaction=showfull&id=1408435339
Thats not how it looks in reality. Every time I take a picture of my Avant showing dark scenes I get very strange picture that is nothing like reality. So even if contrast is exaggerated it is not this way it looks. Sure - in a black menu with some high contrast elements here will be bleed but it's not this bad. It's also a very uncommon situation.The main takeaway from this discussion is the pros and cons for both are completely subjective. Seems everyone else here has the MK1. I would highly recommend testing both out if you can before dropping that much money. Just a further note on the edge lit downside of the MK1 is here in the review from Flatpanels HD. Here is an image they took of the edge lit issue - the contrast is exaggerated here but this is the exact thing that I didn't like. Yes, you can get nice black bars on top and bottom but you get uneven light from the sides. You can obviously read the full review here : http://www.flatpanelshd.com/article.php?subaction=showfull&id=1408435339
It is very, very annoying, sad and frustrating. I think B&O made a wrongful decision closing their software development crew. I'm sure they will realize and so right with the new leadership team. I think what has happened is after years of planning and laying off people. Hopefully they address these issues. It's of course unacceptable to cut support that early. Even the warranty is twice that time. (The latest update to my Avant came late last year I believe).The fact that you can't get a response is very disappointing. I've sent an email to B&O support about this issue but I doubt that will get escalated anywhere. I'll keep pursuing this. If B&O doesn't update the Avant to allow for Beolab 50, that would be a clear signal they've completely given up on this model (that's only 3 years old at most). They've updated it to allow for Beolab 90 connection but will await to see if they push an update for Beolab 50 connectivity.
The main takeaway from this discussion is the pros and cons for both are completely subjective. Seems everyone else here has the MK1. I would highly recommend testing both out if you can before dropping that much money. Just a further note on the edge lit downside of the MK1 is here in the review from Flatpanels HD. Here is an image they took of the edge lit issue - the contrast is exaggerated here but this is the exact thing that I didn't like. Yes, you can get nice black bars on top and bottom but you get uneven light from the sides. You can obviously read the full review here : http://www.flatpanelshd.com/article.php?subaction=showfull&id=1408435339
Thats not how it looks in reality.
Every time I take a picture of my Avant showing dark scenes I get very strange picture that is nothing like reality.
So even if contrast is exaggerated it is not this way it looks. Sure - in a black menu with some high contrast elements here will be bleed but it's not this bad. It's also a very uncommon situation.
Yes, I agree Flatpanels HD exaggerated the effect for demonstration purposes but I don't agree with you at all that it is a very uncommon situation to have high contrast elements. If you watch TV with the lights off and you have white text on black background - like almost every movie - you will notice the bleed from the sides. If you watch in a brightly lit room, it's not as noticeable. It also depends on your contrast settings and room adaptation settings. But if I was to buy this TV for the first time, I would want to know. It's not something that bothers you and that's great but it may bother others.
Yes and it will be as bright on a global backlit display or even worse. Oled is of course way better here. And if you can move the text into the video like Netflix does then it's not an issue. I only have subtitles on regular tv transmissions and I almost never watch that anymore. And then it's a little annoying but not much. I very seldomly watch tv in a room without light. Actually I prefer having dimmed lights on because my eyes are to strained otherwise.Yes, I agree Flatpanels HD exaggerated the effect for demonstration purposes but I don't agree with you at all that it is a very uncommon situation to have high contrast elements. If you watch TV with the lights off and you have white text on black background - like almost every movie - you will notice the bleed from the sides. If you watch in a brightly lit room, it's not as noticeable. It also depends on your contrast settings and room adaptation settings. But if I was to buy this TV for the first time, I would want to know. It's not something that bothers you and that's great but it may bother others.
Many thanks for the continued posts to this thread. I am finding the information extremely helpful in making a decision.
A thought occurred to me that I could also consider a BV12-65 as I will probably be paying similar amounts. Would that give better picture quality than the Avant MK1? I am guessing it would and that blacks would be blacker with little to no light bleed?
There's so much compromise as firstly, I worry that 65" may be overkill in my small space and secondly, the BV12 doesn't really have any B&O magic to it in terms of motorised/moving parts, so what do you guys think with this thrown in the mix?
Is the Avant Mk1 a top up from the BV11 models/panels by the way? I wasn't going to consider these but could do also.
Thanks again.
BV12 is plasma so it has less motion issues than any oled or LCD. However the technology ages in a way that the lightness fade. It also lacks the moving speaker bar but looks good anyway. You get a box to hide as well. And no room to hide an Apple TV etc in the box. If it's supposed to be on a stand then the BV12 is more of a hassle too.Many thanks for the continued posts to this thread. I am finding the information extremely helpful in making a decision. A thought occurred to me that I could also consider a BV12-65 as I will probably be paying similar amounts. Would that give better picture quality than the Avant MK1? I am guessing it would and that blacks would be blacker with little to no light bleed? There's so much compromise as firstly, I worry that 65" may be overkill in my small space and secondly, the BV12 doesn't really have any B&O magic to it in terms of motorised/moving parts, so what do you guys think with this thrown in the mix? Is the Avant Mk1 a top up from the BV11 models/panels by the way? I wasn't going to consider these but could do also. Thanks again.
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