ATV Black - Avant, simple question

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For the Apple TV2 to work you need a HDMI with HDCP (thats the encryption for Bluray), I only found it on more expensive converters (around 400 EUR/USD). I am wondering, if this thing from china really does the trick - HDMI without HDCP is only  another form of DVI, not to difficult. 

It seems to me, you need something that is able to decipher HDCP like the hdfuryIII:

Tim wrote:

For the Apple TV2 to work you need a HDMI with HDCP (thats the encryption for Bluray), I only found it on more expensive converters (around 400 EUR/USD). I am wondering, if this thing from china really does the trick - HDMI without HDCP is only  another form of DVI, not to difficult. 

It seems to me, you need something that is able to decipher HDCP like the hdfuryIII:
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I use an HDFury to connect my BeoSystem 3 to my projector and it works beautifully. However, you definitely need to order the power supply, too, rather than relying on the power from the HDMI connection. 

With athe first generation of ATV you don't need HDCP. I had mine connected with a HDMI to DVI cable to a BV-6 (sound separate)

 

Hi Guys,

I'm really curious if you will be able to solve this, PeterG, since I would like to make a similar configuration, but with BV3 or AV9000 also using the scart input.

Today I have a Apple TV ver.1 connected to my BV3 using ATVFlash software to convert the video signal from component to composite so I can connect it directly to the Scart.
The result is brilliant colours and sharp ( as sharp as can be on a BV3 with 480i resolution) Before I got this soultion I tried 4 different converter boxes and all resulted in a blurry picture that would just annoy me if watching a whole movie.

Now, since the release of the ATV 2 ( Black) there is no possiblity to convert the signal with software since its HDMI, so a converter box will be your only option. However, those converters mentioned in this thread, is only converting from one digital to another digital interface, so I frankly don't think that will work (correct me if I am wrong...and I really hope I am wrong here :- ) since I want a ATV2 for my bedroom AV9000)
It seems like those converters can convert from HDMI to Component, but not Composite, right? And that will not work..in best case you will get only black and white picture..

If somebody gets an ATV2 to work on a analog CRT TV, please post..and I mean, working with a picture quality that really crisp and nice and meets the B&O level we all want....

/Peter

Peter wrote:

Hi Guys,

I'm really curious if you will be able to solve this, PeterG, since I would like to make a similar configuration, but with BV3 or AV9000 also using the scart input.

Today I have a Apple TV ver.1 connected to my BV3 using ATVFlash software to convert the video signal from component to composite so I can connect it directly to the Scart.
The result is brilliant colours and sharp ( as sharp as can be on a BV3 with 480i resolution) Before I got this soultion I tried 4 different converter boxes and all resulted in a blurry picture that would just annoy me if watching a whole movie.

Now, since the release of the ATV 2 ( Black) there is no possiblity to convert the signal with software since its HDMI, so a converter box will be your only option. However, those converters mentioned in this thread, is only converting from one digital to another digital interface, so I frankly don't think that will work (correct me if I am wrong...and I really hope I am wrong here :- ) since I want a ATV2 for my bedroom AV9000)
It seems like those converters can convert from HDMI to Component, but not Composite, right? And that will not work..in best case you will get only black and white picture..

If somebody gets an ATV2 to work on a analog CRT TV, please post..and I mean, working with a picture quality that really crisp and nice and meets the B&O level we all want....

/Peter

 

Hi Peter,

I think you are absolutely right.

But look at this:

Hi Räuber,

Yes, that box looks like the one needed here! It has composite outputs..and even s-video.

It's a bit expensive though, but maybe its good.. The 4 boxes I tested was in the price range 50-120 Euros, but non of them gave a satisfying quality. I guess its hard to convert without loosing some of the picture quality.
Personally, I would like to test it before buying..

I wonder what the B&O dealers suggest, they must run into these questions alot? My local dealer just says " it doesnt work"..

/Peter

Peter wrote:

Hi Räuber,

Yes, that box looks like the one needed here! It has composite outputs..and even s-video.

It's a bit expensive though, but maybe its good.. The 4 boxes I tested was in the price range 50-120 Euros, but non of them gave a satisfying quality. I guess its hard to convert without loosing some of the picture quality.
Personally, I would like to test it before buying..

I wonder what the B&O dealers suggest, they must run into these questions alot? My local dealer just says " it doesnt work"..

/Peter

 

Hi Peter,

don´t ask your dealer, most of them are not very interested in other solutions than B&O. So someone of us should test this converter box with the new ATV. I only know from people who didn´t use your mentioned "software trick" that the box works very well with the old ATV.

/Räuber

I’ve engaged the Borg (Apple TV Black Box) and the assimilation has begun.

The ATV2 has a really wonderful design and integrates very well with the B&O Masterlink via the Avant, but with Apple choosing only to provide an HDMI for connections; it has now created problems for connections.

We have begun by using an HDMI to Composite scaler model HSC11 by Cable Electronics, but it has provided only mixed success. The music and home integration through the Avant is perfect, but we only get grayscale for the screen.

We are moving on to another Scaler and will continue to keep you updated because getting the ATV to work with the Avant would be a great benefit for both pieces of equipment.

The Apple TV 2nd Generation (black) works with the Avant! The solution: feed the HDMI through the LinkStyle HD Video Convertor LK-219414. It gives wonderful color and the sound is perfectly synched. I purchased it from Amazon for $53.99 plus shipping. Have fun and enjoy!

tgt365 wrote:

The Apple TV 2nd Generation (black) works with the Avant! The solution: feed the HDMI through the LinkStyle HD Video Convertor LK-219414. It gives wonderful color and the sound is perfectly synched. I purchased it from Amazon for $53.99 plus shipping. Have fun and enjoy!

Hi, does this box support 576i also, or is it only US version. I don't find it on any European Amazon site, hence suspicious.

Pekka

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