Are there NO overall happy owners og BV 7-40 MK IV?

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Hi OKA, thanks for your reply.

Very nice to hear general positive comments on MK IV (very brave of you in this forum :-))

As i have ordered a MK IV i went to the store today to se what was up with all the negative feedback in here. These are my experiences.

 

First of all, i addressed the issue about the remote and pressing yellow before everything else when controlling BD/DVD. My dealer just looked at my as if i was insane and told me "Off-cause this is not the case, why change something that has always worked" BUT to he´s surprise never the less, the issue is present and he was not aware and just at confused as all of us. I made him call B&O and they had NO explanation right away...The technician however promised to call back so i am looking forward to the answer. My dealer told him that this was absolutely unacceptable and would **** a lot of customers off. I think he understood, never the less, now they know that we wont accept that !!

As for the SD quality, i dont think i will be the right to comment on this. First of all, i am used to a 32" BV7 MKII so a larger TV would normally result in lower quality when displaying same resolution. However i do not find the SD quality to be bad at all, The BV 7 was standing right next to a BV 4-50 and its quality was so much worse. I even compared to an older BV1 CRT and a 7-32 without seeing apparent differences. We also played a DVD with the same result.

As for the bluray player, yes its noisy while starting up, but in my ears not that much more than my older Bv 7-32, and yes it takes some time to load a Bluray disc, i am guessing the double of loading a DVD. I do not find this to be a problem AT ALL a long as the player is silent during playback and performs. And speaking of performance..... Digital broadcasted television is absolutely stunning while Bluray playback made me speechless.

THIS tv is by far B&O´s flagship at the moment...NO other tv in the productrange comes even close (BV 8-40 is the runner up but wont compare in a mainroom surround setup)

I was not able to check up on the ML sound delay- and crappy linkroom signals, but my dealer assured me that if this was the case, it will be solved very soon when the issues are generally known.

So i am DEFINITELY looking forward to this Tv, its everything i need and ever wanted...

 

Ehlerz wrote:

So i am DEFINITELY looking forward to this Tv, its everything i need and ever wanted...

I am so glad to read this Ehlerz!

I have a similar TV on order, supposed to arrive some time the first week of July. I have also dismissed all the negativities in the forum telling myself that it CAN NOT be that bad. Why on earth would they release a product with that many flaws...?!

Your latest post reassured me somewhat, and I am looking very much forward to sharing with you on my first days of experience.

OKA wrote:

I have increased the sharpness setting from 14 to 26 and reduced the colour setting two notches from the standard setting. I feel it improves the picture in standard resolution.

I did that too and you're right, it does make a difference.

Apart from the noisy Blu-ray drive, weren't you somewhat disappointed to find two HDMI sockets used by the player and DVB-HD module?

Ehlerz wrote:

I was not able to check up on the ML sound delay- and crappy linkroom signals, but my dealer assured me that if this was the case, it will be solved very soon when the issues are generally known.

But that's my point....those things should be sorted from inception. ML issues are B&O's forte. If there's something they should be able to get right, it's ML issues. They've been linking their products for years! We shouldn't have to be 'reassured' by our dealer that it will be sorted, over time. They shouldn't ship a product that has ML issues.

The link-room Blu-ray issue won't be fixed via sw though. Watch a Blu-ray on the BV7-40 MKIV and the picture will jerk along on a link-room TV due to the lack of bandwidth to send the signal through the RF box.

takktakk wrote:

I have a similar TV on order, supposed to arrive some time the first week of July. I have also dismissed all the negativities in the forum telling myself that it CAN NOT be that bad. Why on earth would they release a product with that many flaws...?!

You mean like the BV7-40 MKIII since October 2007? That's not speculation, those sw-based flaws really happened. A lot of users on this board spent months discussing serious sw issues on their MKIII.

If you have your MKIV connected to a pair of speakers and have one external unit (PS3, Apple TV or similar) connected, you probably won't experience any issues at all - however, if you start introducing other kit, such as a Blu-ray player, a link-room TV, Sky HD box and so on, that's where you would have experienced problems.

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I agree with the general sentiment, the products just haven't been good enough - where are the new design icons?

I can't think of any lately that stands out from the crowd - possible with the exception of the BEO5.

My smaller recent purchases the serene, serenata, BS3 have all had to go back for repair – the service I get is superb but I think the dealerships must be frustrated with the standard of the products they have to sell.

Location: London

Ehlerz:

>First of all, i addressed the issue about the remote and pressing yellow before >everything else when controlling BD/DVD.

I have a BEO5 and I don't need to press any other keys than >>, << and PLAY for fast forward, fast backward and normal.

 

moxxey:

>Apart from the noisy Blu-ray drive, weren't you somewhat disappointed to find >two HDMI sockets used by the player and DVB-HD module?

I am not too worried, as I use the DVB-HD as a replacement for a TDC/Samsung box, which is, as far as I understand, the danish equivalent for a SKY box in UK.

I also have a BM5/BS5 connected, so that leaves one HDMI socket free.  To use for what? ( In my case, that is :-)  )

  

OKA wrote:

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I have a BEO5 and I don't need to press any other keys than >>, << and PLAY for fast forward, fast backward and normal.

 

Hi again, i also have a Beo5, and therefore it is not a problem for me either. However, when the dealers dont even know about it and B&O has no explanation, why on earth make it that way. I could somewhat understand if the arrows had another function when in dvd mode, but they dont....

Could it be to sell more Beo5´s?? I mean the ability to program macros will sort such an issue. Just speculation and really hope this is not the case.

Moxxey, were you expecting being able to watch BD in linkrooms through Coaxial? I didnt know that was possible or at least was supposed to be possible. Should BS3 downscale it to SD and broadcast it to linkrooms, as digital is obvious not an option through ML and Coaxial.

OKA wrote:

>Apart from the noisy Blu-ray drive, weren't you somewhat disappointed to find >two HDMI sockets used by the player and DVB-HD module?

I am not too worried, as I use the DVB-HD as a replacement for a TDC/Samsung box, which is, as far as I understand, the danish equivalent for a SKY box in UK.

I also have a BM5/BS5 connected, so that leaves one HDMI socket free.  To use for what? ( In my case, that is :-)  )

That's the problem - we have to use an external Sky box. My other HDMI socket is used for the PS3. My BM5 is now connected via components, as I don't need 1080P mode. I still could do with another HDMI socket for the Apple TV, which is yet to be connected!

Ehlerz wrote:

Moxxey, were you expecting being able to watch BD in linkrooms through Coaxial? I didnt know that was possible or at least was supposed to be possible. Should BS3 downscale it to SD and broadcast it to linkrooms, as digital is obvious not an option through ML and Coaxial.

I don't care what my expectations are - B&O sell me a TV with a linkroom connection. There's no caveat or warning that we might expect judder on a linkroom picture watching a Blu-ray via linkroom.

That's my point. We're almost apologising on behalf of B&O. They sell and promote the TV. It's not my problem that they haven't got a digital linkroom setup. They should have had all of that ready *before* they started selling HD 1080P TVs.

It makes me laugh that we 'forgive' the company as their technology isn't capable of doing what it says on the tin. It's not problem that my linkroom TV has delayed audio and a juddering picture that can't be fixed via sw.

I guess I'll need to wait and upgrade - yet again - to a BV7-40 MKV when they move to digital ML.

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