Apple TV 4K

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That would be great!

I got the Nvidia Shield two years ago - with 4K, also supports the 4K standard used by YouTube. And I am already enjoying Amazon Prime, something Apple was rumored to release when the previous box hit the market.

The Nvidia Shield also supports all your movie/picture storing devices, comes with a "playstation"-controller for gaming and gives you the option of a hard drive for local storage of content.  

Roger

Roger wrote:

I got the Nvidia Shield two years ago - with 4K, also supports the 4K standard used by YouTube. And I am already enjoying Amazon Prime, something Apple was rumored to release when the previous box hit the market.

The Nvidia Shield also supports all your movie/picture storing devices, comes with a "playstation"-controller for gaming and gives you the option of a hard drive for local storage of content.

Roger

From what I can find out, it appears that the Nvidia Shield only supports HDR10 but not DolbyVision and other HDR Standards and as far as I'm concerned, it's the HDR that makes the biggest difference not the 4K. The new Apple TV 4K supports both HDR10 and DolbyVision.

Hi Michael -- same here.  Just put my order in maybe 5 minutes ago, and cannot wait to put it through the paces when it arrives in a few weeks.  Sadly...  I don't have a 4k/HDR set at this time, but I'm hoping the upgraded capabilities will enhance a few apps currently having trouble from time-to-time.

 

You think this revision will have a wider range of native processing reduce the need for transcoding (think Plex Media Server)?  If it does, I may purchase a 2nd, and ditch the HTPC.

 

 

Hi Everyone -- just noticed an article calling out a particular new inclusion with the new set of apple devices.  Looks like FLAC is becoming a bit more supported.

 

https://www.macrumors.com/2017/09/15/apple-flac-playback-4k-apple-tv-iphone-7-8-x/

https://www.theverge.com/2017/9/21/16341876/new-apple-tv-4k-review-2017

 

Verge review of the new box....

YouTube not in 4K HDR.....oh dear.

The point in the article that stood out to me was the lack of mode switching.  I haven't really thought of single mode video since back in the days of manually configured sync rates.  :: face palm ::

Sandyb wrote:

YouTube not in 4K HDR.....oh dear.

Did you really expect that to come?

MM

Location: Flensborg————Danmark

I purchased it two days ago. I already have Nvidia Shield TV. 

• Nvidia Shield TV does not process Dolby Digital + (used by netflix). The B&O Avant does, but its software is faulty so it cant be used. I have alerted them and they have acknowledged (B&O) but have not fixed the issue. Meaning only stereo in 4K netflix on that device.

The Apple TV on the other hand does process Dolby Digital + on device. It sends PCM data to the Avant which means raw clear data. This works. So now after three years I have surround in 4K.

• The interface is just like the regular ATV 4.

• I have not heard a fan inside it but it might have one, it has vents on the bottom but might just be for the extra heat it might produce.

• Snappy and great interface - miles better than the Nvidia Shield TV.

• It can be set to 24 hz (which I did) for motion interpolation to work (in 4K it does not work in 50/60 hz as in 1080p on avant). It works with netflix 4K whereas the Shield does not. You have to trick it by rebooting with 50hz and then change it.

• Seems to scale 1080p and lower res content pretty well actually. I was considering keeping my ATV 4 as well but seemingly I can do everything from the new box. And if really necessary I can of course change the output to 1080p first and then play on the new "ATV 4K".

• So nice to be back fully on Apple interface. Apple really hit a home run with their system. It works so smooth and great. Nice and easy to use. No setup at all really. Just held my phone close to the Apple TV as it told me and all settings was transferred wirelessly.

- No 4K youtube due to VP9 not implemented in Apples SoC or software. Maybe they will implement it. I do not know. It's not top priority but sucks nonetheless.

- Some issues with sound, probably due to the Avant (or buggy first release OS on the ATV 4K). Sometimes I don't get dialogue and the TV displays PCM 0.0 (no channels?). It plays back the surround channels in right and left and no center. Sounds really funny. Happened a few times. I expect this to get resolved.

- Seems also like they might have changed the IR-code database. On my old ATV 4 I saw (IR B&O) in the settings, now just (IR TV) or somesuch. It turns the TV on - to TV turner (super strange) and volume buttons can't be used. I hope this will be fixed. Maybe the B&O is detected as something else in 4K than in 1080P handshake and thats why it fails to detect it properly. I do not know. And unfortunately the B&O remote can not be learned manually due to their different IR spectrum. Pity! (Oh, maybe I can try using my old Apple TV remote and learn the new one by using that. Ill try!)

Michael wrote:

I purchased it two days ago. I already have Nvidia Shield TV. 

• Nvidia Shield TV does not process Dolby Digital + (used by netflix). The B&O Avant does, but its software is faulty so it cant be used. I have alerted them and they have acknowledged (B&O) but have not fixed the issue. Meaning only stereo in 4K netflix on that device.

The Apple TV on the other hand does process Dolby Digital + on device. It sends PCM data to the Avant which means raw clear data. This works. So now after three years I have surround in 4K.

• The interface is just like the regular ATV 4.

• I have not heard a fan inside it but it might have one, it has vents on the bottom but might just be for the extra heat it might produce.

• Snappy and great interface - miles better than the Nvidia Shield TV.

• It can be set to 24 hz (which I did) for motion interpolation to work (in 4K it does not work in 50/60 hz as in 1080p on avant). It works with netflix 4K whereas the Shield does not. You have to trick it by rebooting with 50hz and then change it.

• Seems to scale 1080p and lower res content pretty well actually. I was considering keeping my ATV 4 as well but seemingly I can do everything from the new box. And if really necessary I can of course change the output to 1080p first and then play on the new "ATV 4K".

• So nice to be back fully on Apple interface. Apple really hit a home run with their system. It works so smooth and great. Nice and easy to use. No setup at all really. Just held my phone close to the Apple TV as it told me and all settings was transferred wirelessly.

- No 4K youtube due to VP9 not implemented in Apples SoC or software. Maybe they will implement it. I do not know. It's not top priority but sucks nonetheless.

- Some issues with sound, probably due to the Avant (or buggy first release OS on the ATV 4K). Sometimes I don't get dialogue and the TV displays PCM 0.0 (no channels?). It plays back the surround channels in right and left and no center. Sounds really funny. Happened a few times. I expect this to get resolved.

- Seems also like they might have changed the IR-code database. On my old ATV 4 I saw (IR B&O) in the settings, now just (IR TV) or somesuch. It turns the TV on - to TV turner (super strange) and volume buttons can't be used. I hope this will be fixed. Maybe the B&O is detected as something else in 4K than in 1080P handshake and thats why it fails to detect it properly. I do not know. And unfortunately the B&O remote can not be learned manually due to their different IR spectrum. Pity! (Oh, maybe I can try using my old Apple TV remote and learn the new one by using that. Ill try!)

How did you get it so fast? 🙂

I ordered 5 minutes after it was released here in Sweden. Got info it will ship next week. 

Location: Sweden

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