BEOVOX141 wrote:

Millemissen wrote:

My heirs will have less to clean up and have to get rid of, when I am gone.

Judging from the pictures you have posted, you might be forgetting the actual value of your collection.

It could make the cleanup process quite rewarding 😉  

Value.....in a way you are right.

However, buying is one thing and selling another - especially if you (read: those who have to ‘clean up’) are in a hurry and have no clue which item could be worth something.

So, no you can’t convince me!

 

And....a 320 kbps ogg file sounds pretty well to me - I am not in the boat with those who claim to have (golden) ears that can pass an A/B test.

Besides, since I took to streaming (read: from a music provider), I have had access to a whole lot of music, that I would have had to spend a fortune on, if I’d have to buy it and store it in the cupboard at home along with the rest.

This said - I buy things as a regular cd, that I can’t find as a stream.

No religion here - I am for both ways of ‘comsuming’ music.

 

MM

BEOVOX141 wrote:

I will never succumb to the ecosystems built around convenience, complacency and ignorance.

Convenience yes, obviously - but how did we come to such strong emotions and statements as complacency (ok?) and ignorance (huh?). Is Deezer, for example, in your view, a place for ignorants (I mean, subscribers)? 

AnalogPlanet wrote:

Convenience yes, obviously - but how did we come to such strong emotions and statements as complacency (ok?) and ignorance (huh?). Is Deezer, for example, in your view, a place for ignorants (I mean, subscribers)? 

Brilliant question!

Unfortunately I dont think this is the right place to initiate a discussion like this, people would get offended, and things would spiral out of control.

I will say this though. In a few days it will be exactly 50 years since the first man walked on the moon. I am old enough to vividly remember the grainy B/W TV pictures, and as a grew older I came to realize that the actual step wasn't the real achievement. It was the fact they did it with very limited technology. 50 year later we have unlimited access to technology, and we seem to be achieving nothing! Some questions asked right here on this forum is testament to this and those questions are increasing in frequency, and the answers are blowing in the wind.

This is not about a specific Deezer subscriber, but rather the dependencies and meddling we seem to accept without further hesitation or consideration.

I deliberately keep this unspecific, reflect for a while perhaps?  🙂

 

 

BEOVOX141 wrote:

but rather the dependencies and meddling we seem to accept without further hesitation or consideration.

Don’t do that we-thing - speak for yourself!

I certainly did some consideration.....and came to a/my conclusion.

If you are happy with (ripped) CD’s, do (ripped) CD’s - if you are happy with a music from a streaming service, do that - if you are fine with both, do both.

MM

Raised on cassettes, didn’t bother with CD’s until albums I wanted started to not be released on tape. I didn’t care that the internet existed or even have an email address until I learned of Napster and downloading music around the turn of the century. I was then primarily a computer based music listener for 10-15 years.

Both my wife and I are now primarily physical music media users for about 5 years now and we enjoy music daily. There is a place for streaming for me, like running, outdoors, or commuting. She will look up new albums, stream first and then decide if it’s worth purchasing on CD or vinyl. The massive collection of music on my computer is rarely accessed. Or sometimes I’ll take an old favorite playlist on the computer and throw it on a cassette and leave it in the deck for a week or two.

BEOVOX141 wrote:

50 year later we have unlimited access to technology, and we seem to be achieving nothing!

Well, I believe it is very interesting discussion - and it makes me think a bit... ...or as you said: self-reflect. Two things that come to mind, where we have been achieveing significant progress is unlimited music available on-the-go through combo of a smartphone and streaming service, and another (that I personally enjoy very much) is discovering new music similar to what I like through the Mood Wheel on my Moment.

That is, for example, something I never could have done in my LP times. But did you mean perhaps that exactly that unlimited music offered at all times makes it less precious and cherished, compared for one LP you had to save for and then listen thouroughly because new one you could only afford to buy next month (my case)?

Hi,

i use sometimes streaming via airplay from iphone to playmaker (only songs i have bought or apple losless) and then to the beosound 9000 aux

sometimes i use the beosound 9000 with cds

sometimes i use my rega record player -> to playmaker -> beosound 9000 aux

sometimes i use streaming via airplay to apple tv -> playmaker -> beosound 9000

i love all different types. streaming, if i want quick to hear music. cd also, record player if a i have time (weekend etc.)

i never use bluetooth, because of the bad sound quality

I play music from my iPhone in the car and as background music or when with friends, but now I almost exclusively play Vinyl or Internet Radio. I didnt really get into Cassettes or CDs. Interestingly being able to store music for background or car playing on a USB stick I have found really convenient despite the MP3 quality.

For video though, more or less exclusively stream YouTube, Netflix etc - no live TV and DVDs only for really old classic TV series that you cant buy in iTunes.

So I guess there is a place for both. 

Not streaming as yet.

Why?

I got Beosystem 6000 complete in white with Beogram 6006 and Beocord 6000 + Beomaster 6000. Dillen serviced it back in 2007/8 from doa and it still works great.

Then I also have the complete Beosystem 6500 in white serviced by Dillen after its first owner.

I grew up with cassette and vinyl then DAT and MD on the side sort of. As long it works and I can keep it that way I see no reason for change besides the pop music of today is as boring as ever.

Maybe a decade or 3 later it will eventually make sense enough but the streaming technology will be so out that it will be found in thrift stores like older B&O sometimes do here in Denmark.

For "real" music listening I still use CD's for 2 reasons:

- I think I really hear a difference and get the best sound performance from my BS9000 digital out to the BL5's. If there would be an easy way to use the BL5 digital in from other sources I would love to try that.

- The BS9000 experience; I believe one of the best B&O products ever made

For casual/background music I stream (or use good old analog radio).

If I get really sentimental I play a vinyl record.....