Seanie_230 wrote:

....but i have my music up loud enough not to care.

Correct, I agree. Something I've been saying for a while. Sure, the humming is there, and noticeable at times, but in the scheme of "major issues" involving the MKIII (sw)/MKIV (crashing)/MKV (clouding), this is almost a non-issue!

Hi All

Just saw this from the BV 7-40 specifications on the B&O website.

"40" 16:9 TFT LCD, glare surface"

Does anyone have the specifications for the MK IV?

I mean, did the MK IV also have the GLARE SURFACE?

The reason i ask is because i think this might contribute to the white spots I see in darker scenes.

If you move your head up and down and from side to side, the spots becomes much more apparent. 

I am almost 100% sure the original MK IV panel had NO GLARE.

Can anyone confirm this?

/Ehlerz

Hi Ehlerz,

I saw the panels (old and new) when it was chanegd in TV. Andthe surface looked very much the same, but I didn't compared side by side.

I don't know the reason behind the "clouds" but sugget that you send a complain directly to B&O about this. You can do that on thiere web site. I will do this as well.

Ken

Ehlerz wrote:

Hi All

Just saw this from the BV 7-40 specifications on the B&O website.

"40" 16:9 TFT LCD, glare surface"

Does anyone have the specifications for the MK IV?

I mean, did the MK IV also have the GLARE SURFACE?

The reason i ask is because i think this might contribute to the white spots I see in darker scenes.

If you move your head up and down and from side to side, the spots becomes much more apparent. 

I am almost 100% sure the original MK IV panel had NO GLARE.

Can anyone confirm this?

 

/Ehlerz

Hi Ehlerz!

In my living room, as I write, there is a box. In that box there is a panel for my B&O MK IV. What happened was I had the humming sound previosuly referred to, and the panel got switched. Now I have mosaic trouble on fast camera movements and some HD material. Almost as if the panel update doesen't keep up. I have managed to capture that in video, and showed it to my dealer. He in return sent it to B&O who immediately decided towards switching the panel once more. And that third panel if you will, is now in my living room waiting to be mounted later today.

Queston: The box reads item number 8200254 "LCD Panel Beovision 7-40 MKIV new". No mention of what you guys call MK V. Would this be the 200 Hz panel, or are we into a third category?

Interesting for sure. I will ask my serviceman about this. They are so keen to get it right this time, they sent him on a 4.5 hour travel from another town to do this. Supposedly he is the countrys number one in these matters.

/Jesper

Hi Jesper

My replacement box also said MK IV, but the panel inside was correctly the 200hz MK V panel. So I dont think you have to worry about that. after installation, tjek in the customer menu for 200Hz paneloutput.

Be VERY aware of white spots in dark scenes, (try watching it in a dark room when starting up DTV (with the Bang & Olufsen text) in the lower right corner. Mine has massive white spots even after two 200hz panel replacements, so i guess that is just the way it is supposed to be with the new 200 hz panel(???). My dealer has promised to call B&O and ask them if this is a fault or as it is supposed to be. If I had the oppotunity to choose differently, i would rather have my MK IV panel again and live with the 100hz and humming noise. What i got now is WAY Worse!!!!! SO this UPGRADE(!) is for me NOT an upgrade, sadly :-(

If i was you, i would mention it before they do the switch, that way you can always have them switch it back again!!

AND, if you do not experience the white spots, please keep me informed. Then it might be easier for me to get yet another another another another replacement ...

/Ehlerz

fishta wrote:

The new MKV appears to have no problems, I am very pleased with mine and love watching it every day. A lot of the issues in the early days of the MKIII were SW related and again this has now been ironed out.

Hi Fishta

Have you gotten the SW 9.01 with the Bang & Olufsen text in the lower right corner when starting up DTV yet? The reason i ask is because during startup, the whole screen is black (except the text) and it is therefore very easy to see the white spots if there are any, when watching in a dark room.

If you have that SW, please confirm that you see no white spots at all! This will help me get my replacement if true.

Thanks in advance

/Ehlerz

Ehlerz wrote:

fishta wrote:

The new MKV appears to have no problems, I am very pleased with mine and love watching it every day. A lot of the issues in the early days of the MKIII were SW related and again this has now been ironed out.

Hi Fishta

Have you gotten the SW 9.01 with the Bang & Olufsen text in the lower right corner when starting up DTV yet? The reason i ask is because during startup, the whole screen is black (except the text) and it is therefore very easy to see the white spots if there are any, when watching in a dark room.

If you have that SW, please confirm that you see no white spots at all! This will help me get my replacement if true.

 

Thanks in advance

 

/Ehlerz

Hi Ehlerz.

Though I'm not Fishta I provide my feedback. anyway :-) So today was the day. Panel swtich. My MK IV turned MK V in a two hour upgrade flight. Indeed (as you presumed) I now have a 200 Hz panel. Indeed I have the 9.01 software and indeed I have "the clouds". However, when they appear together with the B&O logo, they seem to somewhat fade while I look at them... This could be an optical illusion caused by my stare, but that is my feeling. I tried a couple of times switching between TV and clouds and I got that feeling all three times.

Although I find it strange that they occur, I must say they don't worry me that much. In the picture you refer to they are present, and I also wonder if it is some kind of makeup-gone-wrong trick from Struer. They do not seem to be present anywhere else, and I can find no signals (TV, Blu-ray or Apple TV) where I find them to cause any "damage" while watching.

So, since everything else now seems to be "hickadory hey" - I think I will settle with the status quo for now, and lift my eyes towards the heavens and Beovision 7-55. Wishful thinking that is...

/Jesper

takktakk wrote:

Ehlerz wrote:

fishta wrote:

The new MKV appears to have no problems, I am very pleased with mine and love watching it every day. A lot of the issues in the early days of the MKIII were SW related and again this has now been ironed out.

Hi Fishta

Have you gotten the SW 9.01 with the Bang & Olufsen text in the lower right corner when starting up DTV yet? The reason i ask is because during startup, the whole screen is black (except the text) and it is therefore very easy to see the white spots if there are any, when watching in a dark room.

If you have that SW, please confirm that you see no white spots at all! This will help me get my replacement if true.

 

Thanks in advance

 

/Ehlerz

Hi Ehlerz.

Though I'm not Fishta I provide my feedback. anyway :-) So today was the day. Panel swtich. My MK IV turned MK V in a two hour upgrade flight. Indeed (as you presumed) I now have a 200 Hz panel. Indeed I have the 9.01 software and indeed I have "the clouds". However, when they appear together with the B&O logo, they seem to somewhat fade while I look at them... This could be an optical illusion caused by my stare, but that is my feeling. I tried a couple of times switching between TV and clouds and I got that feeling all three times.

Although I find it strange that they occur, I must say they don't worry me that much. In the picture you refer to they are present, and I also wonder if it is some kind of makeup-gone-wrong trick from Struer. They do not seem to be present anywhere else, and I can find no signals (TV, Blu-ray or Apple TV) where I find them to cause any "damage" while watching.

So, since everything else now seems to be "hickadory hey" - I think I will settle with the status quo for now, and lift my eyes towards the heavens and Beovision 7-55. Wishful thinking that is...

/Jesper

Hi again

Happy that your upgrade are finally done with success. You will later properly find that the white spots are present at all times when the picture is dark, at least they are on my set. But maybe they do not annoy you in the same way as they annoy me.  I also see them in dark movies, etc. 

The saddest thing is actually that i had the choice between a brand new MK IV and a MK V panel upgrade. Stupid as i am, i actually thought the MK V was better but boy was i wrong so far.

But enjoy your new tv, you are lucky you are not affected by the spots :-)

/Ehlerz

Thanks Ehlerz.

I will most certainly get back to you should they (the clouds) start disturbing my day to day use. That would be a different matter entirely, but it is a little early to state.

/jesper

I just had an interesting thought. It seems that the people experiencing the white clouds all had their panel changed/Updated. So far, there seems to be no buyers of the native MK V experiencing any trouble. Is there anyone who has just bought the BV 7.40 MK V that has the same issues?

After having the new panel for a while, i have now also experienced some other weird things. The lowest 5-10 cm of the panel seems to be refreshing at a slower rate than the other part of the panel. When watching a sceneshift in a movie, the old scene keeps hanging for a split second in the low part of the screen. It is also very obvious when sideways scrolling through my movies in Plex using media preview. Has anyone else had the same issue?

Thanks

/Ehlerz