Puncher wrote:

Get a magic lantern!

Ban boring signatures!

Next you’ll be recommending a tin horn too. !

If a 50" screen is ok then a BV9 may suit?

Good luck, Beoaus.

 

 

I hope B&O read this thread.

From Peter's question and his previous enthusiasm and support for B&O, the writing is surely on the wall. B&O are no longer serious contenders for televisions. Maybe they already know it, and we will yet get the motorised sound bar with PUC control for other manufacturers TVs I've promoted here in the past in due course. Otherwise, it looks like top end speakers most cannot afford, and bottom end unreliable but overpriced products,

It's a really difficult choice between OLED and the Magic Lantern though.

Graham

B&O not serious contenders for tv’s....

Get a grip guys. Show me just one tv that comes even close to the Eclipse in therms of picture AND sound, and no, i don’t think Loewe is close. Picture wise it’s the same yes, but on the audio side, remote and design (imo, i know) they’re miles behind.

Peter wrote:

Planning to finally replace my faithful 32" Avant DVD - and will get a 55" flat screen - but which one? The Avant is attached to my BC2 DVD and the house system runs via ML to MCL.

I am thinking that the BV7 would be the simplest switch. I don't like the Eclipse and had a BV10 butI didn't like the sound quality. BV11 is possibly better but I will need an amplifier for the feed to upstairs.

Thoughts?And where would you source it from?

If it were me I would find the latest BeoSystem 3 I could get and buy whatever TV I like as long as it supports 1080p, HDMI, and RS232 control. Get the BS3 serviced and get the TV set up by a competent video tech who understands B&O and can build the PUC.  BS4 plus a converter is better technically, but they made an awful lot of BS3, comparatively. 

Following this thread with a lot of interest. Looking forward to see what you end up with, Peter.

Like you, Peter, I'm not trying to keep up with TV tech either and really enjoy the group of BeoVisions that were sold in the years between '04 and '12ish.

@Punch: Regarding the BV7-55 topic here... I'm not sure why people care if their TV is bulky or not - especially if it is sitting on the floor and not on the wall or other furniture. I mean sure, you'll need to get a six pack of beer to pay back the friend who helps you move the BV in the first time but once it's in, it's in for years (hopefully!). I was talking to my dealer about this exact subject as we were standing in front of a huge surplus of 7-40 units that people have traded in. He said people specifically noted the size of the back. I just don't get why a stand mounted TV being thin and light is important at all.

I think the B7-55 with it's mile-long BeoLab sticking off each side is an incredible set to look at - even when it's off! I'm sure that BL7-6 is also bound to impress as well.

Other than the 7-55, the BV9 or a BV4-50 with a BL10 all mounted on a motorized floor stand would be at the top of my list. Are there any other better speakers ever attached to a TV? I don't know of any.

Fidse wrote:

B&O not serious contenders for tv’s....

Get a grip guys. Show me just one tv that comes even close to the Eclipse in therms of picture AND sound, and no, i don’t think Loewe is close. Picture wise it’s the same yes, but on the audio side, remote and design (imo, i know) they’re miles behind.

I can't agree Fidse, much as I have always admired B&O design and productivity. Traditionally, I would have said miles, but in recent years it is more metres. The question is, just how many people are willing to pay an additional c£8,000k for a tv with only 2 component differences to the competition; those being the sound (I agree) and the remote (also agree) but as for design, I prefer the Sony A1 at 1/5 of the price. In my opinion, the Eclipse is a very poor offering from B&O.

Have a look at the reception when it was unveiled at release; it didn't cause any reaction or excitement at all, which says a lot.

Evan wrote:

Following this thread with a lot of interest. Looking forward to see what you end up with, Peter.

 

 

Like you, Peter, I'm not trying to keep up with TV tech either and really enjoy the group of BeoVisions that were sold in the years between '04 and '12ish.

 

 

@Punch: Regarding the BV7-55 topic here... I'm not sure why people care if their TV is bulky or not - especially if it is sitting on the floor and not on the wall or other furniture. I mean sure, you'll need to get a six pack of beer to pay back the friend who helps you move the BV in the first time but once it's in, it's in for years (hopefully!). I was talking to my dealer about this exact subject as we were standing in front of a huge surplus of 7-40 units that people have traded in. He said people specifically noted the size of the back. I just don't get why a stand mounted TV being thin and light is important at all.

 

 

I think the B7-55 with it's mile-long BeoLab sticking off each side is an incredible set to look at - even when it's off! I'm sure that BL7-6 is also bound to impress as well.

 

 

Other than the 7-55, the BV9 or a BV4-50 with a BL10 all mounted on a motorized floor stand would be at the top of my list. Are there any other better speakers ever attached to a TV? I don't know of any.

Each to their own of course, but the "bulk" of the 7-55 isnt just the depth or even the 75Kg, I'd call it  "design bulk". I feel the bv7 has dated really badly, the wide dead band around the picture screams "old" to the point that you could very well get a 65" modern panel for the same physical size.

The other TVs you mention are getting a bit long in the tooth too. You pays your money and you takes your chances!

 

If Peter reads this then the 7-55 does have a rather good Shadow Puppet mode!

Puncher wrote:

Each to their own of course, but the "bulk" of the 7-55 isnt just the depth or even the 75Kg, its design bulk. I feel the bv7 has dated really badly, the wide dead band around the picture screams "old" to the point that you could very well get a 65" modern panel for the same physical size.

The other TVs you mention are getting a bit long in the tooth too. You pays your money and you takes your chances!

If Peter reads this then the 7-55 does have a rather good Shadow Puppet mode!

Ban boring signatures!

Very much disagree! The BV7 is a design ICON!

Puncher wrote:

Each to their own of course, but the "bulk" of the 7-55 isnt just the depth or even the 75Kg, its design bulk. I feel the bv7 has dated really badly, the wide dead band around the picture screams "old" to the point that you could very well get a 65" modern panel for the same physical size.

The other TVs you mention are getting a bit long in the tooth too. You pays your money and you takes your chances!

If Peter reads this then the 7-55 does have a rather good Shadow Puppet mode!

I guess I should have added a little warning regarding my perspective as a very new resident of Europe... There just simply isn't a comparable second hand market in the US for BeoVisions. When I moved to Germany, I walked into what can only be described as an oasis of second hand BeoVisions. So I am a bit skewed when it comes to this topic because I have been dreaming about owning these machines for 10+ years now and think it's crazy that people aren't snapping up these rock solid, innovative and beautiful machines.

As for the scale in the design, I am always amazed at how much presence there is when I encounter one of these things in person. The photos never do them enough justice. Yes the frame is thick in 2018, but I think they still look amazing, not to mention the design engineer inside of me is always impressed with the materials and fit/finish and in love with the hardware. I think the aluminum work on the 4 and 9 is amazing, not to mention the polishing on the 10/11. The real materials, build quality and surface finish are never communicated with a photo.

I guess i would prefer to have a TV with a little bit of sculpture/statement/character to be proud of at all times (on/off etc) than a forgettable black rectangle.

When it comes to the BV9, BV4 and BV7-55, I would practice what I preach but I live on the top floor of an elevator-less apartment building with a winding staircase! 😂