Severian wrote:

We used to call that coyote ugly, if you woke up and she was laying on your arm you'd chew your arm off rather than wake her up. I had a buddy back when I was single that when we went bar hopping would look around the room, point out some woman and say "Jeff, when that looks good to me make me go home."

The whole subject about reviews is interesting. B&O has traditionally not even advertised in audio mags, not for decades, rather they show up in things like Architectural Digest, Dwell, etc. I do have a review from Stereo Review or Audio when the BL8000 was first introduced though.

And I've seen Beovision reviews, and the odd Beolab review and such online. Would reviews really help? Depends on the reviewer, too many will always qualify any positive statement about a B&O product with qualifiers like "you can get as good for less" or "some people consider them just a pretty face." Mostly no matter how positive the review is the overall impression is left to be not good. It's like they have to pick some nit to keep their audiophile credentials in place.

I also don't fully understand why people are so wigged out by the secrecy...that's very common in tech companies. Apple for instance will go to great lengths and legal means to crack down on any leaks. I understand wanting to know what's up as you get excited by an upcoming product launch, but companies pay a lot of money to setup a product launch and don't want it to fizzle if everyone gets the info beforehand. I also don't understand how negative people here can be at times before they even know what the product is capable of doing. Everyone seems to make up ideas about what it will and won't do before they even see it!

Jeff

Beosound 9000, Beolab 8000, Beogram 3000 w/MMC2, CX50, P30, Beovox 3000, Beocord 3300, Beocord 2000, AV7000, Beolab 2000', Beolink Passive, Beo5 and Beo4s, Beolab 6000, H6, Form 2, Beolink Wireless, Beotime

mjmedlo wrote:

I currently have several B&O televisions (7 [with 7.2],8,9,10,4 [with 7.4] ,v1) the best sounding, IMO, is the beovision 9 (for true one channel).

Given your extensive collection (how many homes & rooms do you have !) I was wondering how you would rate your BVs on Raeuber's scale:

If I would make a sound rating from 1 to 10 points I would say the following:

• ordinary flatscreen (Samsung): 1
• BV 10-40: 3
• BV 11-46: 4
• old Avant: 6

Beolab 10 and 7: 10

I don't expect for the new Avant a higher rating than 5.

Because BL 7 and 10 were discontinued B&O has no more highend center speaker available. This is very sad.

elephant wrote:

Given your extensive collection (how many homes & rooms do you have !) I was wondering how you would rate your BVs on Raeuber's scale:

The Essence of B&O is discretion in design and life

mjmedlo wrote:

I think one factor to keep in mind is the introduction of algorithms in the system 4 chassis.  Even when the speaker has a thinner cabinet,

the technology allows for a more 'full' sound because of digital manipulation of the audio that is broadcast.

So true! Look how much improvement there was from BL8000 to BL18. Same amount of speakers inside with the same diameter, same cabinet volume. Geoff Martin and his crew did an incredible job, making the old iconic BL8000 degrading to a very average sounding speaker, imo.

mjmedlo wrote:

elephant wrote:

Given your extensive collection (how many homes & rooms do you have !) I was wondering how you would rate your BVs on Raeuber's scale:

The Essence of B&O is discretion in design and life

Bv1 32 master closet: 4

Bv1 40 master bath: 6

Bv10-46 master bed:5

Bv 9 office: 9

Bv7 7.2: 7

Bv10-40 guest bed: 5

Bv8-32 also office (used as computer monitor): 7

Bv 4 7.4 theater 8 (as a true center) for music 5

Wow & thank you ! 

Glad you rate the BV8-32 as highly as you do ... 

The new remote

Think this.....

Hi

As I have some close relations to  people associated with B&O, I also have a bit of information - parts of which I can't mention here so asking me will not get you anything - sorry.

The new TV:

People are working extremely hard at the moment to get the TV ready for the launch even, and from what I can gather it sounds as they are working 24/7 in all parts of their organisation.

I do expect some flaws when the TV comes out, but since the birth of their new platform some years aog, I'm not that worried as I can just update it from Internet. Same with cars, I never buy the first one out :)

Netflix - still a no-go, apparantly some hardware not supporting it, and that's the reason why V1 and BV11 hasn't got it either. This is not something which can be fixed in software. I use apple tv anyways, so personally I don't bother.

UHD panel - check, I can't wait to see how B&O implemented this and I of course do expect a lot of their picture performance. Unfortunately they didn't have an UHD player yet, where I saw it, so can't tell anything about the picture.

Sound performance, is at level or better than from what we know from BV11, I don't know much about it in detail, but it will not be a problem to play loud and clear. From the short demonstation I had, it was performing brilliant.

Speaker has some very exciting movable elements. This also affects the thickness of the panel, but there's more volume for speaker cabinet - finally something is moving on their products again, it's great and I like it.

Will be launched with floor stand. I have heard about wall bracket and table stand too, but those could be a bit delayed.

The new remote:

I have had the chance to see this in person and try it out a bit.

Same form factor as Beo4, but lighter and thinner and with a multiple line display, think it's OLED, he couldn't tell.

Beo4 looks old in comparison, and I suspect that it will take a bit of time getting used to, I kind of liked it with the few minutes I had with it :)

It's possible to use with old B&O products as well - so my old beolab 3500 will still be controllable with it :)

It's not a two way remote :( - but again, why would I need the display to state that I'm watching TV, I already know that by looking at the TV screen.

All in all I'm very excited for the event next week, and yes, I have an invitation for the event and high expectations - I just hope they can deliver what I expect from a B&O product. I'm in the market for it, but I have no confirmed price on it yet, perhaps other people here knows that?

/BB

And the new beopad?

any news about that..

If you are asking me, then I don't know much concrete about it - mostly rumors - and I will restrain from doing any speculations on things i'm not entirely sure of

Updated price list for Bang & Olufsen as of May 1st 2014.

http://www.beoherning.dk/app/webroot/uploads/Vejl.%20prisliste.pdf

Both the new Beovision Avant 55" (with BeoRemote One) and the new Beolab 20 speaker is in there.