what do people think when they pack heavy items like this! Unbelievable!!! TBH whenever I see such examples I always think the item was damaged to start with and they purposly pack like this to try to turn things into a courier claim or even try to lay the blame with the recipient!!!

hope things get sorted without trouble!

Some people need to be shot.

Even if it's ebay you're going to get stuffed with the return courier costs plus the hassle of it all.

Stonk wrote:

Some people need to be shot.

+1

What a service! the box is already open! 😕

Hope your item is undamged. Some people have no experience in packing/wrapping for transport unfortunately...   I always give the seller some intructions before i get  by example a beogram arriving in pieces in the box.  

This is the kind of thing that really hacks me off, particularly with products that are as much a work of art as an audio component like B&O. Sloppy and careless, and shows no respect either for the product or the person you're shipping it to.

I see a lot of very badly cared for and damaged B&O for sale, which I have to pass on even though I might want that particular piece. I mean, for B&O the beautiful design and construction is a large part of the pride of ownership, I don't see how some of this gear can get so ill treated.

Before B&O went to branded stores here in the US, the local mega store that sold them did a very poor job of both presenting them and caring for them, having the B&O display out on the floor with the boom boxes, and all of the stuff was pawed over and broken most of the time. I remember I actually wrote and complained about this to B&O, and apparently they really came down on the dealer. My friend worked there as a sales droid and he said all manner of it hit the fan with B&O coming in and looking at the display, and not long after that B&O pulled the license from this place, and then went to branded stores.

One thing I commented on was how could you tell what they sounded like in the middle of a huge, loud room? Suddenly a week or two later the dealer was offering to let me take a pair of 8000's home for an extended audition. Worked, I would up buying them. They sounded thin and poor in the store, at home they were magnificent.

So yeah, I feel your pain as an ex president said.

chartz wrote:

I also give them instructions but they will invariably NOT listen.

I'm currently waiting for some damage compensation, but I guess I will never see the colour of their money now they got mine...

Got my money back, eventually!

So all those little hifi shops that lost their franchise's around the workd basically boils down to you complaining!!! 😎

Jeff wrote:

This is the kind of thing that really hacks me off, particularly with products that are as much a work of art as an audio component like B&O. Sloppy and careless, and shows no respect either for the product or the person you're shipping it to.

I see a lot of very badly cared for and damaged B&O for sale, which I have to pass on even though I might want that particular piece. I mean, for B&O the beautiful design and construction is a large part of the pride of ownership, I don't see how some of this gear can get so ill treated.

Before B&O went to branded stores here in the US, the local mega store that sold them did a very poor job of both presenting them and caring for them, having the B&O display out on the floor with the boom boxes, and all of the stuff was pawed over and broken most of the time. I remember I actually wrote and complained about this to B&O, and apparently they really came down on the dealer. My friend worked there as a sales droid and he said all manner of it hit the fan with B&O coming in and looking at the display, and not long after that B&O pulled the license from this place, and then went to branded stores.

One thing I commented on was how could you tell what they sounded like in the middle of a huge, loud room? Suddenly a week or two later the dealer was offering to let me take a pair of 8000's home for an extended audition. Worked, I would up buying them. They sounded thin and poor in the store, at home they were magnificent.

So yeah, I feel your pain as an ex president said.

Step1 wrote:

So all those little hifi shops that lost their franchise's around the workd basically boils down to you complaining!!! 😎

One of those "little hifi shops" was HiFi Buys of Ann Arbor, Michigan, where my first wife bought my first Beogram, an RX 2 I still own and use.  Here is HiFi Buys' advertisement from  the January 6, 1975 issue of the Ann Arbor Sun.  Their top of the line system at the time:  Beosystem 3000.